Le Monde and ARD Detail How IAAF Heads Blackmailed Russians for Millions of $ to Coverup Positives

She had already served a two-and-half year ban, extended further by a CAS appeal. This new positive was from a retest of 2012 samples.

More Bribes Please wrote:

Zaripova tested positive for Turinabol ( CDMT )

"CDMT was the key steroid administered to approximately 10,000 athletes from East Germany (GDR) as secret official policy, often without their knowing the nature of the "vitamins" they were forced to take. The doping program was run by the East German Government from about 1968 until 1989 when the Berlin wall was destroyed. The doping program was known as STASI 14.25."

The funny thing about the Dailymail picture you link to is that 'Dirty Berti' may be the the cleanest of the four pictured.

rekrunner wrote:

The only new elements are the actual amounts of money involved, and an unhappy email from Balakhnichev.

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The WADA IC had the full blood history from the IAAF through 2015, and did their own detailed analysis.

You keep downplaying the evidence and demonstrating your wishful thinking.

a) What you call "unhappy email" is actually a written witness account describing more corruption from a proven corrupt organization. Now, go ahead and call the witness a liar without any evidence.

b) "the full blood history"? There is no evidence for that - stop pretending you only go by evidence. In fact, it is highly unlikely that this corrupt organization only extorted Russian dopers, and it is further extremely naive to think this corrupt organization would willingly hand over evidence of its illegal actions.

"The WADA has failed across the board" - Clemens Prokop.

Well ok, that's not exactly news.

but Brojos are not quite there yet. They still expect that reform can happen, they will continue to be surprised with this stuff.

ustaf, nike, iaaf, wada, olympic comittees galore, are only an example of the issue right now. the old big corps and orgs across the board are completely rotten to the core. absolute power corrupts absolutely.

get rid of em all. there is nothing to save in these rotten barrels of apples.

start fresh. start alternate groups, alternate competitions. that don't necessarily recognize any of the status quo groups listed.

transparency and talent is needed to recreate or create new forms of organization.

take the law in to you own hands.

this includes most definitely commerce, reinvent the shoe company,

the current model of using slave labor, and an advertising machine with a Michael jordan going bla bla..... nothing could be more evil.

The question is "what is new"? What more does this new evidence tell us?a) Not more corruption, but confirmation of the same corruption and much the same information we already learned one year ago.b) The WADA IC told us they analyzed 3 copies of the same blood database with the IAAF providing the most complete version, with data through 2015. I'll be surprised to see that any British athlete wasn't followed up, or wasn't in any of the three copies of the database. The Russians were in the database.

casual obsever wrote:

You keep downplaying the evidence and demonstrating your wishful thinking.

a) What you call "unhappy email" is actually a written witness account describing more corruption from a proven corrupt organization. Now, go ahead and call the witness a liar without any evidence.

b) "the full blood history"? There is no evidence for that - stop pretending you only go by evidence. In fact, it is highly unlikely that this corrupt organization only extorted Russian dopers, and it is further extremely naive to think this corrupt organization would willingly hand over evidence of its illegal actions.

rekrunner wrote:

She had already served a two-and-half year ban, extended further by a CAS appeal. This new positive was from a retest of 2012 samples.

More Bribes Please wrote:

Zaripova tested positive for Turinabol ( CDMT )

"CDMT was the key steroid administered to approximately 10,000 athletes from East Germany (GDR) as secret official policy, often without their knowing the nature of the "vitamins" they were forced to take. The doping program was run by the East German Government from about 1968 until 1989 when the Berlin wall was destroyed. The doping program was known as STASI 14.25."

Yes Gary, but it the same chemical that all the old records were run on. You raced at 1500; you must have been aware of the middle distance runners that were using.

That never gets old.

rekrunner wrote:

The question is "what is new"? What more does this new evidence tell us?

We have a witness who has seen a "list of athletes with ABP violations", which included a British "Olympic champion and icon of the GB sports".

As far as I know, that is new. Also new is the conclusion of the German athletics president about WADA's failures (which does not surprise me).

On top of that, we have confirmation for the often alleged IAAF practice to "sanction" athletes by forcing them to fake an injury/DNS/DNF. Many suspicious examples of the past come to mind.

Don't forget: we are still waiting for some 10 - 15 names of the reported 23 bribery cases. Plus, the 23 uncovered cases were supposedly only the tip of the iceberg.

Finally, we can look forward to tomorrow's documentary in the ARD, and then later to the conclusions of the French courts.

casual obsever wrote:

"The WADA has failed across the board" - Clemens Prokop.

Well ok, that's not exactly news.

It isn't WADA's job to police doping. They create standards, then audit for compliance with those standards.

Again, the federations are responsible for policing anti-doping. As the story shows the federations have complete control over doping sanctions. If they don't want a positive, then it goes away.

Wonder if the Russians are just talking about TUEs (therapeutic use exemptions). They pretended like the "Fancy Bears" hacks were some huge scandal, maybe that's what they were referring to.

gasdfs wrote:

Wonder if the Russians are just talking about TUEs (therapeutic use exemptions). They pretended like the "Fancy Bears" hacks were some huge scandal, maybe that's what they were referring to.

As has been shown, the TUE system is wide open to abuse. Play the system right, and come to the next event "better prepared" than anyone else.

According to Seppelt's Twitter feed, the story has been updated with more information.

SUMMARY: not only was the IAAF orchestrating the outcome of events (see Shubakova) the Diacks were likely making 10's of millions of Euros threatening to turn athletes positive.

We strongly believe that the only way to avoid a huge scandal concerning covering-up the numerous ADRV which also involved almost all responsible IAAF officers is continuing joint efforts to keep the situation "under the table" as it was happening all these years.

Except, Coe. Coe knows nothing. Talk about a Teflon president.

This article puts the JADCO scandal in a new light. Jamaican Athletics HAD to be sure their athletes never tested positive before they left. Otherwise, someone had to pay the "Diack Toll" to get the sanctions thrown out. It seems like a bunch of sprinters were either unwilling or unable to pay the "Diack toll."

The only way to fix this is 100% transparency, every drug test is public record. But that will never happen so the situation will never be fixed.

Somehow I doubt that Balakhnichev saw a list including British athletes, that the WADA IC did not. But let's see.The opinions and judgement of the German athletics president is not new, nor are his conclusions about WADA and the IAAF Ethics Commission. What's new is that they asked his opinion.The existence of the list of 23 athletes under "various stages of investigation" is also not new, the public being informed of such a list of athletes, one year ago.This "tip of the iceberg" talk always seems to me to be some kind of last resort for the hopeful when faced with a lack of evidence. When are we going to see the rest of the iceberg?Let's see what more information will come from the ARD documentary, and the French criminal investigation.

rekrunner wrote:

This "tip of the iceberg" talk always seems to me to be some kind of last resort for the hopeful when faced with a lack of evidence. When are we going to see the rest of the iceberg?

That's not hope, that's realism: the vast majority of crimes remains undetected. See e.g. the "International Handbook of Criminology", chapter 5.2.4.6, where crime statistics are described as the "tip of the iceberg", with references therein. Why would extortion be different?

We will never see the rest of the iceberg, whether we look at extortion, doping, or theft.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

casual obsever wrote:

"The WADA has failed across the board" - Clemens Prokop.

Well ok, that's not exactly news.

It isn't WADA's job to police doping. They create standards, then audit for compliance with those standards.

Again, the federations are responsible for policing anti-doping. As the story shows the federations have complete control over doping sanctions. If they don't want a positive, then it goes away.

But their audits are evidently useless, as you yourself concluded. So: fail.

Now that some of you are more informed, I will say again that certain athletics events in Rio were fixed.

Here's a summary of the latest Seppelt story.

IAAF is fixing events.

IAAF is blackmailing positive test results.

Russia/Russian athletes did not pay "enough" to the IAAF.

IAAF is not sanctioning some positive test results.

Lausanne lab a kind of doping disaster containment unit.

Coe knows nothing, despite emails plainly stating otherwise.