1. Does it matter? Is this bad?
2. How to fix it? Drills, etc?
1. Does it matter? Is this bad?
2. How to fix it? Drills, etc?
You may be overstriding.
Yes, vertical motion is wasted energy. Try shortening your stride a little.
So, yall think it is a cadence issue?
What do you mean by "bouncing"? Going up and down or overstriding?
One cannot tell running economy by looking at one's running form. Data from the Eastern Michigan lab shows some people with high vertical displacement were more economical that those with "normal" strides.
Only at easy pace or when you speed up too? I've had people tell me my easy pace (particularly during fartleks or recovery jogs) is too bouncy, but it only seems to be like that when I'm in good shape, so I'm guessing it just has to do with my muscles having the right level of tension for faster running.
Get a new sports brah
I wouldn't worry about it unless you're bouncing like 200 yards at altitude.
Not a big deal. Just make sure you have proper support.
This was my running template when I was 16 - 17 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0e1yaMIM08
No vertical movement whatsoever, and that's the way it should be.
anon. wrote:
This was my running template when I was 16 - 17 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0e1yaMIM08No vertical movement whatsoever, and that's the way it should be.
Not always.
The previous post of scientific video evidence on this thread shows that your conclusion is not correct.
brah wrote:
Get a new sports brah
wobble wobble MF
See thread title.
Wonder if there will be pics or maybe a gif.
Click on thread.
Am disappoint.
Get a more supportive sports bra
1. Without seeing your form, it's impossible to say whether you bounce too much. Some very efficient fast runners get serious air time, but they possess a very high back heel kick follow-through with each stride and a high lower thigh gap angle, i.e. very flexible hips and a long but efficient stride, even though their cadence may not be as high. Others get there with very little bounce, but a very high cadence. Both forms possess strong elbow pull-back with each stride regardless of what elbow-angle is present, so long as the hands and forearms are relaxed and the elbow doesn't move in front of the perpendicular body-line on arm front-swing.
2. Quick fast-cadence striders where you focus on form and relaxation near-daily, a religious devotion to hip flexibility exercises such as the 100-up or the couch stretch, hill sprints, hill repeats, hilly runs (did I mention hills?), upper body strengthening, butt kicker drills and high knees drills, squats, regular doses of sprint work to emphasize proper form. Self-monitoring, relaxation, and awareness of form while on runs of any length is critical. This is not a complete list, but gives you a good start.
Yes, I'm a coach. Not at an elite level, don't care to coach anywhere but where I am, but my high school teams have won state titles, so I'm not a complete fool about this. I know what has worked for my teams and the above has helped my runners, though I don't maintain this is the final word or only way on this topic. The above will help you, though.
That's a younger runner deal.
It gets better as you get older and ornerier.
Even if you do bounce and even if it is a result of overstriding, unless you are a high school athlete, I wouldn't worry about it.
As a general matter, we tend to end up where our body is most comfortable. If you have been running this way for years, it will be really hard to change, and it may not really be all that inefficient in any event. It could just be the way your body is meant to run.
I am in the same boat as you - easy runs are at 160 spm, and my stride is about 1.4m despite being only 5' 8". But I never knew of any of this because I came of running age well before the time of Garmins that measure these things. The reality of it, however, is that I am all legs and I can still generate quick turnover when it matters (my spm in races = 180+).
In short, you do you.
Can you try to channel this stride power into a more powerful forward stride? That is, you want to be going less up with the whole body than the knees. If you watch some stride comparisons with Ritz and Tadesse, etc., you see East African strides where the athletes don't go up and down--their head stays about the same height--but their knees go up pretty high and that gives them a good long stride without overstriding.
Are your times good?
Are you stronger at 800 vs 3200?
Vertical jump and standing broad jump?
If you have good pr's and you are strong in these jumps, don't worry one bit.
If your pr' s are only average and your still strong at these jumps, work on stamina based workouts more and don't worry about your form, and steer towards 800/1600 vs 3200.
If you're pr's are average and your jumps suck, then your form matters more and should have some focus on your form for improving pr's.
As a side note, your jump measurements matter a lot for measuring mid distance potential and your current form may reflect your muscle fiber type and may be a good thing.
By years and miles the running economy will get better automatically, no need to worry too much. But hill running and sprints are very important like already someone said, race pace strides, drills. Strength training, glutes, hamstrings, core etc. You also could try some downhill-flat reps to, run down the hill landing as smooth as possible and at the bottom continue running 50-100m, repeat. The aim is to get rid of the possible overstriding.
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