Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games

Of course, no names given

"This just on the BBC:"

Is there a better source that Western state-run media?

"Of course, no names given"

The smear campaign is not against persons.

It's not clear whether these are random samples, but ~8% positive rate seems depressingly high. If you're Chris Christie, though, it's no big deal.

5000ft wrote:

386 samples selected from 2008;

30 athletes tested positive;

From four sports and eight countries;

454 samples selected from 2008;

30 athletes tested positive;

From six sports and 12 countries;

Did they switch sports and move to different countries?

Try thinking.

dingle wrote:

Try thinking.

I know it's early and I'm only on my first cup of coffee, but that still doesn't make much sense right now.

Is bekele finally busted?

confused i am wrote:

dingle wrote:

Try thinking.

I know it's early and I'm only on my first cup of coffee, but that still doesn't make much sense right now.

I'm actually confused why you are confused. The passage you quoted seems very clear to me.

Need to ask wrote:

confused i am wrote:

I know it's early and I'm only on my first cup of coffee, but that still doesn't make much sense right now.

I'm actually confused why you are confused. The passage you quoted seems very clear to me.

And I am confused about why you are confused why he is confused.

dingle wrote:

It's not clear whether these are random samples, but ~8% positive rate seems depressingly high. If you're Chris Christie, though, it's no big deal.

Depressingly high? It's 35% lower than the percentage of athletes who said they doped in that survey run at a recent World Championships (the research that Nick Davies tried to sweep under the carpet).

"smear campaign"? huh? these people should be absolutely shamed publicly. considering previous protocol, it's doubtful that anything will ever become of these new revelations.

Need to ask wrote:

confused i am wrote:

I know it's early and I'm only on my first cup of coffee, but that still doesn't make much sense right now.

I'm actually confused why you are confused. The passage you quoted seems very clear to me.

I actually figured out why this person is confused, there were 30 athletes who tested positive in both samples. I think confused assumed they were the same 30. I don't think they were.

Some sources are saying one of the positives is from the 1500m final!!!!!!

Ben L Wrong wrote:

Some sources are saying one of the positives is from the 1500m final!!!!!!

What source might that be?

MAK DADDY

Should have a running clock on the homepage until the names are released...

Spotter of dopers wrote:

Ben L Wrong wrote:

Some sources are saying one of the positives is from the 1500m final!!!!!!

What source might that be?

Leo Manzano, better you watch the news in the next hours/days.

dingle wrote:

Need to ask wrote:

I'm actually confused why you are confused. The passage you quoted seems very clear to me.

I actually figured out why this person is confused, there were 30 athletes who tested positive in both samples. I think confused assumed they were the same 30. I don't think they were.

Yes, I figured it was the same 30. Thanks.

Ben L Wrong wrote:

Spotter of dopers wrote:

What source might that be?

You heard it.

Leo Manzano, better you watch the news in the next hours/days.

There's a difference between a source and a prediction.