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    • 5000ft
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      • Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 6:15AM
      • 5000ft
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      • This just on the BBC:

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/36866141

        A further 45 athletes have tested positive for banned substances after a second set of samples from the London and Beijing Olympics were re-analysed.

        Of these, 23 were medallists from the 2008 Games, according to the International Olympic Committee (IOC).

        IOC president Thomas Bach added that his organisation was committed to the "fight against doping".

        The latest results bring the total number of athletes who have tested positive from 2008 and 2012 to 98.

        Two more sets of retesting are due to take place as the crackdown continues.

        Key details from second wave of retesting:

        386 samples selected from 2008;
        30 athletes tested positive;
        From four sports and eight countries;
        138 samples selected from 2012;
        15 athletes tested positive;
        From two sports and nine counties.

        First wave of retesting:

        454 samples selected from 2008;
        30 athletes tested positive;
        From six sports and 12 countries;
        265 samples selected from 2012;
        23 athletes tested positive;
    • don't trust until offic.denied
      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 6:19AM - in reply to 5000ft
      • don't trust until offic.denied
      • "This just on the BBC:"
        Is there a better source that Western state-run media?

        "Of course, no names given"
        The smear campaign is not against persons.
    • dingle
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      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 6:22AM - in reply to 5000ft
      • dingle
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      • It's not clear whether these are random samples, but ~8% positive rate seems depressingly high. If you're Chris Christie, though, it's no big deal.
    • confused i am
      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 6:23AM - in reply to 5000ft
      • confused i am
      • 5000ft wrote:
        386 samples selected from 2008;
        30 athletes tested positive;
        From four sports and eight countries;

        454 samples selected from 2008;
        30 athletes tested positive;
        From six sports and 12 countries;
        Did they switch sports and move to different countries?
    • confused i am
      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 7:01AM - in reply to dingle
      • confused i am
      • dingle wrote:
        Try thinking.
        I know it's early and I'm only on my first cup of coffee, but that still doesn't make much sense right now.
    • Doping expert
    • Need to ask
      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 7:16AM - in reply to confused i am
      • Need to ask
      • confused i am wrote:
        dingle wrote:
        Try thinking.
        I know it's early and I'm only on my first cup of coffee, but that still doesn't make much sense right now.
        I'm actually confused why you are confused. The passage you quoted seems very clear to me.
    • The Meta Effect
      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 7:27AM - in reply to Need to ask
      • The Meta Effect
      • Need to ask wrote:
        confused i am wrote:
        dingle wrote:
        Try thinking.
        I know it's early and I'm only on my first cup of coffee, but that still doesn't make much sense right now.
        I'm actually confused why you are confused. The passage you quoted seems very clear to me.
        And I am confused about why you are confused why he is confused.
    • Reaganomics
      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 7:36AM - in reply to dingle
      • Reaganomics
      • dingle wrote:
        It's not clear whether these are random samples, but ~8% positive rate seems depressingly high. If you're Chris Christie, though, it's no big deal.
        Depressingly high? It's 35% lower than the percentage of athletes who said they doped in that survey run at a recent World Championships (the research that Nick Davies tried to sweep under the carpet).
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    • AW
      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 8:16AM - in reply to exthrower
      • AW
      • "smear campaign"? huh? these people should be absolutely shamed publicly. considering previous protocol, it's doubtful that anything will ever become of these new revelations.
    • dingle
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      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 8:20AM - in reply to Need to ask
      • dingle
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      • Need to ask wrote:
        confused i am wrote:
        dingle wrote:
        Try thinking.
        I know it's early and I'm only on my first cup of coffee, but that still doesn't make much sense right now.
        I'm actually confused why you are confused. The passage you quoted seems very clear to me.
        I actually figured out why this person is confused, there were 30 athletes who tested positive in both samples. I think confused assumed they were the same 30. I don't think they were.
    • Ben L Wrong
      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 9:39AM - in reply to 5000ft
      • Ben L Wrong
      • Some sources are saying one of the positives is from the 1500m final!!!!!!
    • Spotter of dopers
      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 9:44AM - in reply to Ben L Wrong
      • Spotter of dopers
      • Ben L Wrong wrote:
        Some sources are saying one of the positives is from the 1500m final!!!!!!
        What source might that be?
    • Mr. Obvious
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      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 9:55AM - in reply to 5000ft
      • Mr. Obvious
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      • Should have a running clock on the homepage until the names are released...
    • Ben L Wrong
      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 9:58AM - in reply to Spotter of dopers
      • Ben L Wrong
      • Spotter of dopers wrote:
        Ben L Wrong wrote:
        Some sources are saying one of the positives is from the 1500m final!!!!!!
        What source might that be?
        You heard it.

        Leo Manzano, better you watch the news in the next hours/days.
    • confused i am
      • RE: Doping - 45 new failures from London and Beijing Games 7/22/2016 9:59AM - in reply to dingle
      • confused i am
      • dingle wrote:
        Need to ask wrote:
        confused i am wrote:
        dingle wrote:
        Try thinking.
        I know it's early and I'm only on my first cup of coffee, but that still doesn't make much sense right now.
        I'm actually confused why you are confused. The passage you quoted seems very clear to me.
        I actually figured out why this person is confused, there were 30 athletes who tested positive in both samples. I think confused assumed they were the same 30. I don't think they were.
        Yes, I figured it was the same 30. Thanks.