Help me break 20:00 in 5K this summer

honestly if you can't break 20 with 6 weeks of that program, you may not have the speed to do it.

i see the following issues:

way too much mileage

don't do doubles

too many slow miles

not enough quality intervals

not enough rest

not enough tempo

not enough threshold

Your training looks like you are still training for a marathon.

Try this:

http://www.runnersworld.com/race-training/solving-the-5k-puzzle

Pete know what he is talking about.

Pauly Shore, you're a weasel. Obvious troll. 0/10

Yes, you're probably trolling, but I'll respond anyway. If you're a troll, 5/10. If not...

Do you have weight to lose? If so, lose it.

Your mileage level is fine. If you can't break 20 on that training schedule, you may just not have the talent to do it.

I'm now about 95% sure you're a troll.

If you cant break 20, you aint doing 3-4 mile tempos at 7-7:15

Why do people think I am trolling? I know I have little talent but I've been working hard and I just want genuine help and criticism.

another retard wrote:

If you cant break 20, you aint doing 3-4 mile tempos at 7-7:15

I don't know why this is hard to believe. 7 is a comfortable pace for me, especially on the track. I mostly do my tempos on the road though, so they can slow down to 7:15. On the track I can run a 20 minute tempo at 6:45 pace quite easily. Maybe I just suck at racing.

Yes, you are working hard at trolling because all the help you need is in the RunnersWorld link.

pauly wrote:

Why do people think I am trolling? I know I have little talent but I've been working hard and I just want genuine help and criticism.

another retard wrote:

If you cant break 20, you aint doing 3-4 mile tempos at 7-7:15

I don't know why this is hard to believe. 7 is a comfortable pace for me, especially on the track. I mostly do my tempos on the road though, so they can slow down to 7:15. On the track I can run a 20 minute tempo at 6:45 pace quite easily. Maybe I just suck at racing.

You run a 20 minute tempo at 645 quite easily, but you can't run 626 for 3.1

miles? So basically you tempo a 3 mile quite easily at a pace faster than your PR.

What is this sh*t, man? What is "quite easily"?

What is your diet like?

Timeless beauty wrote:

pauly wrote:

Why do people think I am trolling? I know I have little talent but I've been working hard and I just want genuine help and criticism.

I don't know why this is hard to believe. 7 is a comfortable pace for me, especially on the track. I mostly do my tempos on the road though, so they can slow down to 7:15. On the track I can run a 20 minute tempo at 6:45 pace quite easily. Maybe I just suck at racing.

You run a 20 minute tempo at 645 quite easily, but you can't run 626 for 3.1

miles? So basically you tempo a 3 mile quite easily at a pace faster than your PR.

What is this sh*t, man? What is "quite easily"?

The 6:45 pace tempos are run on the track while my "PR" (only official 5K race) was on a hilly and muddy (slippery) course. I do agree it's weird I can run 6:45 pace "comfortably fast" and struggle to maintain 6:25 pace for long intervals. I think I will do a time trial in a couple weeks. I just came back from vacation and 5 days off running so I am not in race shape at the moment.

_)UH23i7t wrote:

What is your diet like?

I try to eat plants and fruits for most of my calories. A lot of rice and potatoes too.

I am not vegan but try to limit animal products a they make me feel bloated and sluggish.

I could definitely lose 5 pounds and be at a healthier weight. I guess I am just waiting for the mileage to take care of my weight instead of dieting but it's clearly not working.

_)UH23i7t wrote:

What is your diet like?

I try to eat plants and fruits for most of my calories. A lot of rice and potatoes too.

I am not vegan but try to limit animal products a they make me feel bloated and sluggish.

I could definitely lose 5 pounds and be at a healthier weight. I guess I am just waiting for the mileage to take care of my weight instead of dieting but it's clearly not working.

_)UH23i7t wrote:

What is your diet like?

I try to eat plants and fruits for most of my calories. A lot of rice and potatoes too.

I am not vegan but try to limit animal products a they make me feel bloated and sluggish.

I could definitely lose 5 pounds and be at a healthier weight. I guess I am just waiting for the mileage to take care of my weight instead of dieting but it's clearly not working.

How about protein and iron?

Pete Pfitzinger has several 5K schedules in his book, also for your level of mileage.

Are you really old maybe? Height, weight, and age?