Various diets (meat-eating; flexitarian; vegetarian; and vegan) and the Body Mass Index

In case anyone is wondering whether it's worth clicking, it's not a very informative or useful video. Well-worn territory and no real data given.

Lots of data if you listen.

Ytfgrt wrote:

In case anyone is wondering whether it's worth clicking, it's not a very informative or useful video. Well-worn territory and no real data given.

{sarcasm} Yeah, identifying a relationship between various levels of meat-eating and plant-eating with BMI just doesn't say much. {/sarcasm}

That guy's videos are smarmy, condescending, propagandistic nonsense.

Wow, skinnier vegans. Just wow. Controlled for age? For activity level? For genetic profile? NO. Also skinnier is not necessarily healthier. Usain Bolt has a higher BMI than an anorexic, self-harming vegan girl.

Correlation is not causation.

Eat a balanced diet without excluding foods that humans have eaten healthily for millenia. Adjust in the direction that seems to support your lifestyle. Some people are more carb-tolerant, might even be healthy as vegans. Others are carb-intolerant, and must avoid starches and sugars. Listen to your body and balance diet, sleep and training. Health is not an agenda, it is a state of being.

I would hypothesize that it has more to do with the type of person that becomes a vegan or vegetarian than the inclusion of meat. Most people become vegan because they are concerned with healthy eating, which includes being aware of calorie consumption.

and wow, worst voice-over ever

U Asked For It wrote:

That guy's videos are smarmy, condescending, propagandistic nonsense.

Wow, skinnier vegans. Just wow. Controlled for age? For activity level? For genetic profile? NO. Also skinnier is not necessarily healthier. Usain Bolt has a higher BMI than an anorexic, self-harming vegan girl.

Correlation is not causation.

Eat a balanced diet without excluding foods that humans have eaten healthily for millenia. Adjust in the direction that seems to support your lifestyle. Some people are more carb-tolerant, might even be healthy as vegans. Others are carb-intolerant, and must avoid starches and sugars. Listen to your body and balance diet, sleep and training. Health is not an agenda, it is a state of being.

"Also skinnier is not necessarily healthier. Usain Bolt has a higher BMI than an anorexic, self-harming vegan girl. " - The Dr. notes in other videos that a marshmallow diet is vegan but horrible diet. And you may have noticed that, on a global scale, skinniness seems to be declining as a problem.

"Correlation is not causation." - Yes, but it indicates a possible causal relationship often worry of exploration.

"Eat a balanced diet without excluding foods that humans have eaten healthily for millennia." - I think I heard elsewhere that humans or their near ancestors have mostly been plant-eaters for 23 of the last 25 million years and only in the last 2 million years have greatly increased meat consumption.

Dang spellCHANGER:

"Also skinnier is not necessarily healthier. Usain Bolt has a higher BMI than an anorexic, self-harming vegan girl. " - The Dr. notes in other videos that a marshmallow diet is vegan but is a horrible diet. And you may have noticed that, on a global scale, skinniness seems to be declining as a problem.

"Correlation is not causation." - Yes, but it indicates a possible causal relationship often worthy of exploration.

"Eat a balanced diet without excluding foods that humans have eaten healthily for millennia." - I think I heard elsewhere that humans or their near ancestors have mostly been plant-eaters for 23 of the last 25 million years and only in the last 2 million years have greatly increased meat consumption.

The ancestors of Pandas were carnivores, but they would get sick and die eating only meat today. The ancestors of whales and dolphins ate grass for 100 million years. Species adapt.2 million years is plenty of time for evolutionary adaptation. 20-50 years (popularity of vegetarian/vegan fads) is not. You can't fight your biology without a cost. If you are willing to compromise your health for moral reasons, help yourself. Whole food vegan is still far better than the Standard American Diet, just not optimal for most, especially athletes.

U got it wrote:

"Eat a balanced diet without excluding foods that humans have eaten healthily for millennia." - I think I heard elsewhere that humans or their near ancestors have mostly been plant-eaters for 23 of the last 25 million years and only in the last 2 million years have greatly increased meat consumption.

U Asked For It wrote:

The ancestors of Pandas were carnivores, but they would get sick and die eating only meat today. The ancestors of whales and dolphins ate grass for 100 million years. Species adapt.

2 million years is plenty of time for evolutionary adaptation. 20-50 years (popularity of vegetarian/vegan fads) is not. You can't fight your biology without a cost. If you are willing to compromise your health for moral reasons, help yourself. Whole food vegan is still far better than the Standard American Diet, just not optimal for most, especially athletes.

U got it wrote:

"Eat a balanced diet without excluding foods that humans have eaten healthily for millennia." - I think I heard elsewhere that humans or their near ancestors have mostly been plant-eaters for 23 of the last 25 million years and only in the last 2 million years have greatly increased meat consumption.

What do you think is "optimal for most, especially athletes" then? I'm very close to vegan: the foods I consume while at home are vegan, but when away from home will allow myself some dairy or, less often, eggs, otherwise I may go hungry or incur expense I cannot afford (I'm a student).