Remember when "atheist" had a negative connotation?

Reading truly millenials posts is like a Saturday morning when the Jehovah's come calling.

I even read the posts in their toneless run-on voices.

Sloetry in Motion wrote:[/]

Once again you haven't actually answered the question, but you do see the problem, don't you?

You claim god wants something: everyone to believe he exists. If he had the abilities you ascribe to him, this would be incredibly easy to do since, as I pointed out, Obama isn't all knowing or all powerful and he has convinced most of the world of his existence. And yet your god has failed to do something it wants to do. How do you square this circle?

Once again i tell you that my answer is i don't know and not leaning on your own human understanding is key to understanding spiritual truth. I do understand your issue with these questions though. Do you think that I have not come from a similar place of having the same doubts as yourself?

This is one of the results of atheism.

http://www.abortionno.org/wp-content/gallery/abortion-pictures/22_weeks-01_medium.jpg

Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:

OK, so you are an ARROGANT LIAR. Upped the stakes just a little bit.

I wonder if you are even aware that you are making "believers" look really, really bad by your arrogance and dishonesty.

Of course, I know that you have no legitimate claim to speak for anybody other than yourself. As such, I don't paint believers in general with your own arrogance and dishonesty. Still, there may be others who are a bit quicker to judge a group by one of its members so you may want to give some thought to your words before choosing to post them.

I think im done discussing on this thread. It would apear that we are at an impass: i say trust not your own understanding but trust in the Lord and you will find truth, you say how can i find truth without my intellect revealing it to me.

My apologies to you if I have offended. I do not intend to sound arrogant or judgemental, but rather to be a humble servant of the Lord and a good steward of his word. My aim was to cause you all to question your assumptions about truth, to convict your hearts of sin, and to warn you out of about God's eminent judgement.

You may not be willing to listen now, but when you are brought low in life and you are at your wits end, remember that the Lord loves you and he is mighty to save ALL who call upon his son Jesus Christ.

(just one of) the sad results of theism

https://goo.gl/LmRTQR

Thank you for leaving.

And "offended"? Nope, not at all. I simply pointed out the fact that your posts were those of an arrogant liar. I hope that you are not offended by facts.

truely millennial wrote:

Sloetry in Motion wrote:[/]

Once again you haven't actually answered the question, but you do see the problem, don't you?

You claim god wants something: everyone to believe he exists. If he had the abilities you ascribe to him, this would be incredibly easy to do since, as I pointed out, Obama isn't all knowing or all powerful and he has convinced most of the world of his existence. And yet your god has failed to do something it wants to do. How do you square this circle?

Once again i tell you that my answer is i don't know and not leaning on your own human understanding is key to understanding spiritual truth. I do understand your issue with these questions though. Do you think that I have not come from a similar place of having the same doubts as yourself?

You do realize what a huge cop-out this is? You tell us all sorts of things that you "understand" about god, but when we point out a contradiction, inconsistency, or other problem with your beliefs, you turn to the "don't lean on your own understanding" excuse. The problem is that to have any religious beliefs, you HAVE to lean on your own understanding.

Yes, Islam is tragic.

You do understand that abortion is strongly associated with Christianity and not atheism. Right?

"This is one of the results of atheism."

Wrong. Christianity condemns abortion as we are made in the image of God. Nice try in your attempt to deflect the truth.

So sad wrote:

Yes, Islam is tragic.

You've read your bible, right? I'm pretty sure it mentions stoning people in there somewhere.

So sad wrote:

Wrong. Christianity condemns abortion as we are made in the image of God. Nice try in your attempt to deflect the truth.

"in the image" is a helpful term. How exactly is a very finite, very flawed, sinful creature " in the image of an all-knowing, all-loving, infinite, perfect one?

if we're made in the image of god, we've certainly returned the favor .. Voltaire.

Bible is Fox News at its worst wrote:

Your Bart Ehrman quotes are just flat out stupid. No scholar in the Western World, huh. That's just flat out stupid.

There was no Paul or Peter or Jesus. The best source of information is obviously the Jews. Jesus was a Jew you know. There is zero independent documentation of Jesus.

Bart Ehrman is no idiot and you're wrong. Present some evidence to back up your claims instead of throwing up slop.

wtfunny wrote:

So sad wrote:

Yes, Islam is tragic.

You've read your bible, right? I'm pretty sure it mentions stoning people in there somewhere.

Which WAS the practice in those days, sure. Let's talk about today. The radical fundamentalist Islamists are doing a lot of stoning, throwing gays off roofs (that would make you a target, right?) and public executions are the norm in Saudi Arabia, just saying.

Some questions I have for theists:

Is there sin in heaven?

If people are unable to sin in heaven, wouldn't that us robots without free will?

Baldy wrote:

Some questions I have for theists:

Is there sin in heaven?

If people are unable to sin in heaven, wouldn't that make us robots without free will?

Another question:

Doesn't it seem like the deeply religious are the most greedy people of all - they effectively are subjecting themselves to their belief system in anticipation of the ultimate reward (eternal bliss). Some believers might even kill their children if required to gain this reward.

Isn't this massive level of greed and selfishness evidence that believers ultimately put their own long term self interest above all else, and nothing more?

Would any believers be willing to trade their spot in heaven with another (damned) soul? I would do such a thing for my children if it came down to it.

Baldy wrote:

Some questions I have for theists:

Is there sin in heaven?

If people are unable to sin in heaven, wouldn't that us robots without free will?

I want to know what you DO there. Do you have to feed your dog and stoop and scoop still? Where do you put it if so?

What about spaying and neutering?

All Dogs go to Heaven wrote:

Baldy wrote:

Some questions I have for theists:

Is there sin in heaven?

If people are unable to sin in heaven, wouldn't that us robots without free will?

I want to know what you DO there. Do you have to feed your dog and stoop and scoop still? Where do you put it if so?

What about spaying and neutering?

I'm more worried that the Lord will give me a leg humper that I can't return to His pound.

An eternity of that would be Hell.

Baldy wrote:

Baldy wrote:

Some questions I have for theists:

Is there sin in heaven?

If people are unable to sin in heaven, wouldn't that make us robots without free will?

Another question:

Doesn't it seem like the deeply religious are the most greedy people of all - they effectively are subjecting themselves to their belief system in anticipation of the ultimate reward (eternal bliss). Some believers might even kill their children if required to gain this reward.

Isn't this massive level of greed and selfishness evidence that believers ultimately put their own long term self interest above all else, and nothing more?

Would any believers be willing to trade their spot in heaven with another (damned) soul? I would do such a thing for my children if it came down to it.

Believers killing their own children to gain this reward? Dude, what are you smoking? If you would trade places with your children, then that is understandable. Salvation is through the Lord Jesus Christ and is a gift for anyone to accept. There are plenty of people who have heard the message and choose to reject it. Sounds like you want to give people a 2nd chance. That's not how it works, unfortunately. Once you die, your destiny is set for eternity.