Nationally Ranked HS Teams: How Many Of Their Scoring Runners Are Transfers?

CBA - ALL transfers; however dont belong on any top 30 list.

thanks.

Pretty sure all the Sandburg guys are legit. I remember when six of their now "top 7" entered in freshman year and kicked my team's a**

Updated. Sort of.

You are a dumb piece of shit, there whole team has ran for CBA as freshman

A more accurate picture might be which schools are public and are not mega-sized. To be competitive on a consistent basis usually takes a private or open enrolled school drawing good runners, or schools so large that there has to be talent in the hallways if discovered.

Are there any smaller public schools without open enrollment on the list?

this is a good question - Hawthorne HS in California used to recruit from all over the So Cal area - it was illegal but they did it anyway, probably rationalizing that they were giving poor kids the chance to win college scholarships.

Which isn't crazy from an oldster's POV, but as a student it just felt like cheating being ignored by the adults.

In Arizona, open enrollment exists for all freshmen. They can enroll in any school, regardless of where their home district is, and prior contact with a high school coach does not exist (therefore, they can enroll at the school with their youth club coach).

And honestly, its a good thing. In fact, the next step is for high school athletic associations to get rid of transfer rules. If a student-athlete wants to transfer schools for whatever reason, their should be no restrictions to their athletic participation.

This eliminates the following issues:

1) Money and resources wasted on investigations into recruiting

2) Talented student athletes being wasted by incompetent and/or uncommitted coaches

3) Arbitrary enforcement of recruiting violations, usually protecting affluent or consistently dominant schools at the expense of lower income, or less traditionally successful schools

4) Arbitrary rulings involving personal hardship situations by student athletes forced to transfer for reasons they had no control over and had nothing to do with athletics

5) Students being stuck at a poor academic school because they don't want to lose time participating in athletics.

Success wrote:

You are a dumb piece of shit, there whole team has ran for CBA as freshman

do they all live in CBAville?

The Mount Tabor High School team has zero transfers. Coach Cromwell does a really good job developing the talent from freshman year to senior year. He took Kayla Montgomery and Ian Milder from average/below average freshman to top in the nation as seniors. Coach Cromwell is an outstanding coach and his runners really believe in his system. It hurts me to say this about one of my rival schools but it is the truth.

At Downingtown West for the boys, their top two (Jaxson and Josh Hoey) are brothers who transferred from a private school back to public last year. I don't think it was a case of transferring like you're asking though. The rest of the team is all homegrown.

lake braddock is legit. no transfers on the girls side

gobluesasquatch wrote:

And honestly, its a good thing.

Thanks. I currently live in AZ but do not have much contact with high schools or their way of doing things.

I grew up in Ohio and one major issue requiring attention were athletes transferring for each sport. School A for football, school B for basketball, and school C for track. That is the biggest reason they implemented transfer rules.

Currently in Ohio most but not all schools have open enrollment allowing those from other districts to attend, but the biggest determining factor in cross-country seems to be size. I still have family who compete in SE Ohio and those schools do not have a chance when they have 300 or less of one gender in grades 10-12 in the same division with schools of 1400.

My question was wondering if this size advantage carries over to the national level? Of course recruiting of private or open enrollment schools could be smaller, but are most of the top nationally ranked schools also very large schools?

I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT OVER HALF OF THE TOP RUNNERS FROM THE TOP HIGH SCHOOLS ARE KENYAN TRANSFERS FROM KENYAN WRECKING OPPORTUNITIES FOR AMERICANS FROM AMERICA!

Updated.

Off the wall question, but are the Hoey brothers the sons of Fran Hoey?

Marietta's team has no transfers.

Had Some Myself wrote:

Off the wall question, but are the Hoey brothers the sons of Fran Hoey?

I believe so, yes.

yea this is right, they are brothers, they did not move to be able to join Downingtown west who was favored to win states anyways without them. They are homegrown because they reside in the school district area and went to private school out of choice before.

fpgleamvbeyw wrote:

yea this is right, they are brothers, they did not move to be able to join Downingtown west who was favored to win states anyways without them. They are homegrown because they reside in the school district area and went to private school out of choice before.

So two extremely talented runners that were going to a private school decided to go to a public school, and aww shucks what do you know that school just happens to be favored to win state already. Weird how that works.

There are enough kids in our school district area that would make for an undisputed #1 team in the nation if they all decided to go to the same school.