UNT beats UT, but UT remains ahead in regional rankings???

The only ranking that matters will be the race results after the regional meet. Who cares about a pre-meet poll?

By that logic Wisconsin deserves to be off the national poll with their performance at Louisville. It's up to the coaches who vote to go purely off results or rank them by what they "can" do.

UT may have been running in flats but they did not use it as a workout. Pretty sad that they are using excuses. I agree that the rankings don't matter. Run fast at regionals and beat UT then if you really can. Who cares who wins in early October (or late October for that matter!)?

South Central is a joke in XC and only deserves one auto spot anyway.

No dog in this fight, but I notice how you conveniently left out the fact that Texas beat UNT by 35 points the week before when both teams were racing at full strength. So, it looks like UT is still 34 points ahead of UNT.

The rankings don't determine who gets to nationals or the order of finish at nationals.

I saw ol' Brad out there and he was sweating bullets when the guys came by 6k...he knows that the youth of his team will catch up to them come regionals.

Look for the Mean Green to put it together and pull off the upset.

Likely result. Arkansas wins the region easily, a&m squeaks 2nd from UNT and Texas fades in a longer race, due to youthful inexperience.

Arkansas then runs 19th at NCAAs and A&M finishes 28th.

The Aggies are terrible. As bad as Texas and UNT are, Texas AM is far worse. That have been horrible since 08 and show no signs of getting better. Coach Henry doesn't care about XC at all.

The ranking system is flawed, Wisconsin jogs and I bet they don't drop that much in the rankings tomorrow. How about this, rank people on how they do week in week out. That would be fun and would really make the rankings more exciting from week to week.

It's a sad situation.

But just as others have said...it's merely rankings and at the end of the day they don't matter for much in qualifying.

BUT THEY DO MATTER IN...

Recruiting...especially in Texas.

I know Stefanie and I'm sure she'll use this as motivation for her team and it might be just what they need on that day they don't feel like giving it their all or are feeling run down.

Good luck to both schools. It will be exciting to see what happens in November.

Coach Slekis is a hell of a coach and has some great background. From a pure production standpoint I think she is better than Herbie.

She takes mid level guys and helps them run near the top, where UT takes top guys and does what is expected at times and neglects the rest.

But Brad boy does put in more work on that Twitter and social media work. I see you big dog. Keep up those posts with little pickle and you got it on lock.

UT deserves to be above Unt. They're a much better team.

What the hell happened to the Unt female roster? They had a bunch of foreign athletes who all suddenly left when Slekis was hired?

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The Aggies are terrible. As bad as Texas and UNT are, Texas AM is far worse. That have been horrible since 08 and show no signs of getting better. Coach Henry doesn't care about XC at all.

The bottom half of the roster for A&M is improved. Looking at the results, there's a smaller spread from 1 to 5.

A team could consistently beat another team in heads up but consistently lose to them in major meets due to the idiosyncrasies of the scoring system (small gaps in time for your 3-5 guys can hurt a lot more in big meets). The rankings should ideally reflect how teams will finish at Nationals not in a dual meet.

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The Aggies are terrible. As bad as Texas and UNT are, Texas AM is far worse. That have been horrible since 08 and show no signs of getting better. Coach Henry doesn't care about XC at all.

I guess you missed the Aggie team that finished 18th at NCAAs in 2011?

They looked decent at Notre Dame. But, I'm sure not up to your lofty standards.

No, not up to my lofty standards. Was that the men that were 19th in 2011? If so, I do not remember and I admit I was wrong. I will check though.

The reality is that none of these SouthCentral teams except, MAYBE Arkansas is very good. They will be bottom 2 or 3 at NCAA if they are fortunate enough to make it. That region should not be allowed 2 teams as an AQ. Neither should the South. Both are very bad.

Sam Buroughs recruited most if not all of those guys. The UNT coach is just living on those guys. Please tell me a person she has developed.

Sam Buroughs recruited most if not all of those guys. The UNT coach is just living on those guys. Please tell me a person she has developed.

THIS.

Wait...did Sam Burroughs coach the last two years or am I missing something? Recruiting and coaching are completely different my dude.

Thanks for playing.