Kentucky clerk, Kim David, goes to jail

She cannot pass go or collect $200.

Good.

The Constitution is being enforced in both Due Process and Art. III jurisdiction.

if she's in jail will she be replaced by some special election? the county needs it's clerk.

If she were Muslim she'd be hailed as a hero.

Gawd America is so stupid

Deuce standard wrote:

If she were Muslim she'd be hailed as a hero.

Gawd America is so stupid

Yes, must be amazingly easy to be a Muslim in this country. They can do anything without anyone even complaining.

(just for clarification - that was extreme sarcasm)

dlfdfjdfjsfsf wrote:

She violates court order and must GO TO JAIL. She can get out of jail if she agrees to sign certificates for gays to marry.

Yes she did deserve jail.

It is where most demoRats belong.

Hitlery isn't far behind.

Holder and Obama practiced selectively for years.

Will state officials in Colorado and Washington also go to jail for disregarding federal drug laws?

Just like churches won't be audited by the IRS for illegal political campaign activity.

so, you want the federal government to spend MORE money enforcing dumb laws?wow thanks

selective justice wrote:

Will state officials in Colorado and Washington also go to jail for disregarding federal drug laws?

asdfsdfasdfasdfasdfasdf wrote:

so, you want the federal government to spend MORE money enforcing dumb laws?

wow thanks

selective justice wrote:

Will state officials in Colorado and Washington also go to jail for disregarding federal drug laws?

Pray tell, who decides which laws on the books are "dumb" and therefore can be disregarded?

Kim David thought the SCOTUS marriage decision was dumb.

State officials in CO and WA think federal drug laws are dumb.

selective justice wrote:

asdfsdfasdfasdfasdfasdf wrote:

so, you want the federal government to spend MORE money enforcing dumb laws?

wow thanks

Pray tell, who decides which laws on the books are "dumb" and therefore can be disregarded?

Kim David thought the SCOTUS marriage decision was dumb.

State officials in CO and WA think federal drug laws are dumb.

Actually, it was the voters in those state who thought federal drug laws are dumb.

selective justice wrote:

asdfsdfasdfasdfasdfasdf wrote:

so, you want the federal government to spend MORE money enforcing dumb laws?

wow thanks

Pray tell, who decides which laws on the books are "dumb" and therefore can be disregarded?

Kim David thought the SCOTUS marriage decision was dumb.

State officials in CO and WA think federal drug laws are dumb.

Well, if you are comparing the two, I would say that spending hundreds of millions of dollars tracking down the subject matter of those voter-initiated state laws is a "dumb" compared to enforcing the Due Process Clause of the Constitution of the United States in a very economic and straightforward manner.

sorry if you are a DEA-funding fan

The Original Light Pilsner wrote:

selective justice wrote:

Pray tell, who decides which laws on the books are "dumb" and therefore can be disregarded?

Kim David thought the SCOTUS marriage decision was dumb.

State officials in CO and WA think federal drug laws are dumb.

Actually, it was the voters in those state who thought federal drug laws are dumb.

And state officials who then disregarded the federal drug laws in those states.

The issue isn't gay marriage. Or Federal drug laws. The issue is when is it ok to obey some laws and disregard other laws. And who gets to decide. Or should we just all simply try to be consistent and follow the laws on the books whether we like them or not until they are changed into what we think is right.

A couple points for clarification.(1) Its not an all or none decision. This is obvious. Its not a question of enforcing all the laws or none of them.(2) Don't argue that this law shouldn't be enforce by naming another different law that is not enforced. They are unrelated.(3) Some laws are less likely to be enforced for a variety of reasons. Denying someone's rights to get married is not one of those laws.

selective justice wrote:

The Original Light Pilsner wrote:

Actually, it was the voters in those state who thought federal drug laws are dumb.

And state officials who then disregarded the federal drug laws in those states.

The issue isn't gay marriage. Or Federal drug laws. The issue is when is it ok to obey some laws and disregard other laws. And who gets to decide. Or should we just all simply try to be consistent and follow the laws on the books whether we like them or not until they are changed into what we think is right.

selective justice wrote:

The Original Light Pilsner wrote:

Actually, it was the voters in those state who thought federal drug laws are dumb.

And state officials who then disregarded the federal drug laws in those states.

The issue isn't gay marriage. Or Federal drug laws. The issue is when is it ok to obey some laws and disregard other laws. And who gets to decide. Or should we just all simply try to be consistent and follow the laws on the books whether we like them or not until they are changed into what we think is right.

ever heard of the supremacy clause?

Constitution > all other laws, including the ones you are referring to

so yeah, they should enforce some more than others

I would go to jail if it prevented the mentally ill getting gun licenses.

Conundrum wrote:

A couple points for clarification.

(1) Its not an all or none decision. This is obvious. Its not a question of enforcing all the laws or none of them.

(2) Don't argue that this law shouldn't be enforce by naming another different law that is not enforced. They are unrelated.

(3) Some laws are less likely to be enforced for a variety of reasons. Denying someone's rights to get married is not one of those laws.

A couple of responses for clarification.

(1) Who decides which laws are "obvious" to obey and which are "obvious" to disregard?

(2) I haven't argued that this law shouldn't be enforced. I think Kim David should have resigned instead of disregarding the SCOTUS if she had personal issues with signing marriage licenses for gay couples. The laws are related. Colorado and Washington are disregarding federal laws by legalizing marijuana.

(3) If a law is not going to be enforced it should be removed from the books, otherwise we create a society in which individuals decide for themselves which laws to obey and which laws to disregard.

Someone stood up for what she believed in and pays the price.

Obamamerica in action.