Clerk refuses order to marry gay couple - do your job or quit!

He hasn't been fired because his boss doesn't want him to issue them either. My guess is that he GOT the job because everyone knew he would not quit and would make not issuing the certificates a big issue.

Slowly but surely these ideas will die out.

The clerk hasn't been fired because an elected official cannot be simply fired.

One. She can't be fired, she was elected.

Two. Marriage licenses are state issued, she is not issue any. What doesn't the federal government have to do with any of this? This is clearly within the state's authority.

Three. Catholics can buy meat anytime they feel like it. The ritual is to not consume meat on Fridays in lent.

the process wrote:

The clerk hasn't been fired because an elected official cannot be simply fired.

I didn't know a clerk had to be elected and am not sure that's the case But I think she should go to jail. She defied a court order and is therefore breaking the law.

If she was elected, her arrest would not only preclude her from serving her term and the circummstances involved would should a violation of her oath of office.

Either way she should be out and arrested.

dlfdfjdfjsfsf wrote:

the process wrote:

The clerk hasn't been fired because an elected official cannot be simply fired.

I didn't know a clerk had to be elected and am not sure that's the case But I think she should go to jail. She defied a court order and is therefore breaking the law.

If she was elected, her arrest would not only preclude her from serving her term and the circummstances involved would should a violation of her oath of office.

Either way she should be out and arrested.

That is the case. In KY, county clerks are elected officials. You obviously have not followed the case very closely but feel free to jump in and throw your opinions around.

Blahbaba wrote:

One. She can't be fired, she was elected.

Two. Marriage licenses are state issued, she is not issue any. What doesn't the federal government have to do with any of this? This is clearly within the state's authority.

Three. Catholics can buy meat anytime they feel like it. The ritual is to not consume meat on Fridays in lent.

Not upholding the rights put forth by the Constitution puts it in the domain of the Federal government.

dlfdfjdfjsfsf wrote:

the process wrote:

The clerk hasn't been fired because an elected official cannot be simply fired.

I didn't know a clerk had to be elected and am not sure that's the case But I think she should go to jail. She defied a court order and is therefore breaking the law.

If she was elected, her arrest would not only preclude her from serving her term and the circummstances involved would should a violation of her oath of office.

Either way she should be out and arrested.

What would get their attention is cutting off all federal dollars that pour into the state till this clerk gets with the program.

It's nearly impossible to fire someone in the big government bureaucracy you created, liberals.

dlfdfjdfjsfsf wrote:

I didn't know a clerk had to be elected and am not sure that's the case But I think she should go to jail.

Yes, she was elected.

I think throwing her in jail is a bit ridiculous. Maybe taking her off the job for a few months, possibly allowing state officials to look into the situation. If she is deemed to be breaking the law - you didn't even know KY clerks were elected, how do you claim to know state law regarding marriage licenses? - she could be taken off the job permanently.

*&%GYhj86 wrote:

Slowly but surely these ideas will die out.

I support gay rights and I think they should be able to get married, but I do not think these ideas will simply die out. In fact, I think we will see a strong return to more traditional views with the millennials as they age. It may seem far-fetched at the moment, but we are seeing peak liberal at the moment. Things such as the "Yes Means Yes" and "Black Lives Matter" movements and the constant demand for "trigger warnings" are going to end up exhausting the demographics they target.

Look at the drastic 180 that the Boomers underwent. Who would have thought that the hippies would be responsible for growing the military industrial complex by 1,000x...?

Loofa Dog wrote:

What would get their attention is cutting off all federal dollars that pour into the state till this clerk gets with the program.

Congress won't do that Dummy.

This lady has been divorced three times! She has a high regard for marriage. Another hypocrite!

Well, being order to marry a gay couple; that would make it an odd threesome. Neither of the guys would want to have sex with her so it makes sense she refused to get married to the boys.

tycobb wrote:

This lady has been divorced three times! She has a high regard for marriage. Another hypocrite!

I wish people on both sides of the aisle would stop with the straw man arguments. What you've written is no better than the NeoCons who scream and yell about how DuBose was that father of ten children with seven different women. He still didn't deserve to get shot. You add nothing to the argument but venom and heated emotions.

The clerk is truly heroic.

Liberals are standing in moral quicksand here. The Obama Administration has set precedence when it comes to not enforcing laws. Obama ignores immigration law and all manner of Constitutional Authority. Under subpoena, the IRS simply ignores court orders then destroys their harddrives without impunity. Same with Obama's State Department. Hillary Clinton keeps classified materials on her own server, then refuses to comply with court orders, finally relenting only when an FBI raid is imminent. Of course, she wipes her harddrive clean before the FBI gets to her server.

If liberals were outraged at the lawless behavior of their own then they'd have a point at forcing a low level county court to obey a law that she doesn't like -- like Obama and Clinton.

dlfdfjdfjsfsf wrote:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/same-sex-marriage-kentucky-clerk-defies-supreme-court-turns-down-n419351

Why hasn't this clerk been fired yet? If your religious beliefs don't allow you to issue a marriage certificate then QUIT YOUR JOB!!

I am so sick of these people and their bigotry. These are not good religious people these are bigots hiding behind religion.

If you are catholic would you refuse to sell meat on Good Friday?

Rowan County is a sanctuary county. Live with the lawlessness that you created libs!

I'd disagree with that premise as I don't think the real reason for the trend left is that we have more young millenials, that millenials are more motivated or influential, or even that millenials are the squeekier wheel.

Rather I believe the main factor in the shift is the advent of the internet where our source of information is suddenly much more global, or at the very least you are much more likely to be exposed to fully informed viewpoints from every side of a given issue. This really is a big difference from when you mostly relied on your parents, teachers/coach/church leaders, the 2-3 major media news sources, or pop culture icons.

I agree that the "trigger warning" and "politically correct" (and backlash) phenomena will get old. As well as public temper tantrum "movements" like Occupy or Tea Party will get old but there have always been those on each side who think that if they shout the loudest they get to control public discourse. Right now it just happens to be the smaller subgroups that are getting their 15 minutes of fame.

I tend to think that underlying core of hippies was hedonism and not liberalism. Under that light it isn't at all surprising that they've grabbed as much for themselves as they can, rest of the world be damned.

you made your bed libs wrote:

Liberals are standing in moral quicksand here. The Obama Administration has set precedence when it comes to not enforcing laws. Obama ignores immigration law and all manner of Constitutional Authority. Under subpoena, the IRS simply ignores court orders then destroys their harddrives without impunity. Same with Obama's State Department. Hillary Clinton keeps classified materials on her own server, then refuses to comply with court orders, finally relenting only when an FBI raid is imminent. Of course, she wipes her harddrive clean before the FBI gets to her server.

If liberals were outraged at the lawless behavior of their own then they'd have a point at forcing a low level county court to obey a law that she doesn't like -- like Obama and Clinton.

She challenged the law in court and lost.

How is breaking the law ok for liberals or this woman to do?

I don't need to know if someone was elected or not to know that if you defy a court order you are breaking the law. Its that simple. You are taking the jail comment a bit too literally. But she definitely should be charged for defying a court order and have her day in court to determine whether guilty or not and appropriate fine/consequences. We are still a nation of laws, am I correct on this?