to a personal best 10k the same way Asbel Kiprop dragged him to PB 1500 M
to a personal best 10k the same way Asbel Kiprop dragged him to PB 1500 M
I agree - which is why I suggested in an earlier thread that the winning time would be under 26:30 and that Mo would not lead before the final two laps. Really looking forward to what should be a crazy race.
there's no way this race goes under 26:30
no way
Does anyone know if the 10k will be televised and if not, where I can stream it? I really hope it gets televised but I really hope NBC doesnt screw it up and cut away for most of it like they have done before in 5k races.
absolutely , I can't wait for friday ..it should be exiting race
PREdictions wrote:
Mo would not lead before the final two laps.
That's a really BOLD prediction there... are you sure about that?
There you go good Sir
NBC will broadcast Sat but friday will be streamed live for free
Bad Wigins wrote:
PREdictions wrote:Mo would not lead before the final two laps.
That's a really BOLD prediction there... are you sure about that?
Farah led the last 3 laps the last time he ran the 10k at Pre. Waiting until the last 2 would be unprecidented.
He sure did
tony the tiger wrote:
to a personal best 10k the same way Asbel Kiprop dragged him to PB 1500 M
You're saying Geoffrey will beat Mo?
I hope I'm wrong but I'm fulling expecting 26:10 at the bell with the usual 52-54 finish.
It's just been so long of the same precedent of people talking like they will do something with aggressive pacing then not actually acting on it. Probably even worse now that people have seen Mo being beaten in a kickers race.
Keeping fingers crossed Geoffrey is different...but not expecting it.
i've seen posted, that pace offered is a rubbish 26'40 to 5k
geoffrey is in wr breaking shape
you can't run 26'15 off 13'20 split, requiring a 12'55 2nd 1/2 !!!
i wish organisers woud be more ambitious & put in some top kenyan 5k guy to pace them thru in 13'10 at worst & preferably nearer 13'05
eugene has chance of a medal distance men's distance wr, which they may not have had since...???
( & they are throwing away the opportunity !!! )
canova has said 26'30 is a rubbish time :http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=6513326&thread=6501203#6513326
ventolin^3 wrote:
i've seen posted, that pace offered is a rubbish 26'40 to 5k
geoffrey is in wr breaking shape
you can't run 26'15 off 13'20 split, requiring a 12'55 2nd 1/2 !!!
i wish organisers woud be more ambitious & put in some top kenyan 5k guy to pace them thru in 13'10 at worst & preferably nearer 13'05
eugene has chance of a medal distance men's distance wr, which they may not have had since...???
( & they are throwing away the opportunity !!! )
Give me a break, go out in 13:05? With the recent trend in Diamond league races, I doubt even a 5k field would go with the rabbit at that pace
ventolin^3 wrote:
canova has said 26'30 is a rubbish time:
I'm very close the evaluation of Ventolin (also if a little bit more... humble about performances of Marathon runners !).
In my opinion, 26'30" is not a very strong time I had athletes, of sure less talented than the best Marathon runners of today, and NOT fast (for example, Albert Chepkurui, in Qatar Ahmed Hassan Abdullah, who ran 12'56" and 26'38" with a real, personal value in 1500m of 3'42", something possible for Wilson Kipsang and Kimetto too, of course with two months of training including some specific workout of speed endurance, or John Korir, 5th in OG 2000 in Sydney when only 19y, able running 26'52" with a PB in 5000m of 13'09"), who ran at a speed today considered almost ecceptional.
I was thinking this morning, while driving to work, that the 10,000m scene has really under performed in the last 5-10 years, when compared to the fierce competition at the marathon. I realize they're different races and the marathon has a big pay day for everyone, but there is some crossover, as noted by Canova.
Two months ago he apparently wanted to go for it:
http://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-world-championships/news/geoffrey-kamworor-beijing-10000mConsequently, his potential at the longest major championship distance on the track is effectively untested but a big reduction in his personal best beckons in his next 10,000m race, with Kamworor looking to run much faster than 27 minutes.
He could but what i'm saying is whether in losing or winning effort Jeff will help Mo best his 10k time
geoffrey K, other than geoffrey of '11 new york, who was fastest intrinsic M i ever saw & geoffrey-'11 did it of pure M training
canova has to talk some c..r..a....
he coud/woud not post the geoffrey of '11 new york was in
26-flat/low
shape of just M training
( think :
at some M time/performance, it's inevitable you have intrinsic 26'30 speed :
2"02'00 ???)
mutai had likely lot better than 26'30 in new york '11, but coaches won't predict
he offered mutai a rubbish ~ 26'30, but he doesn't coach him or ever
try close to 26-flat
kamworo was capable of 26-low/flat coupla years ago when running 58'50+ off jog to 4k in arab 1/2M
if he doesn't try to crush farah into the ground from gun, then yes, it time to give up on track
this has to be acid test for track
if the quantum-leap better 10k guy can't crush mo, a likely 26'30/26'35 guy into the ground, then track needs....
ventolin^3 wrote:
kamworo was capable of 26-low/flat coupla years ago when running 58'50+ off jog to 4k in arab 1/2M
if he doesn't try to crush farah into the ground from gun, then yes, it time to give up on track
this has to be acid test for track
if the quantum-leap better 10k guy can't crush mo, a likely 26'30/26'35 guy into the ground, then track needs....
Well, slap my a$$ and call me silly, I actually agree with ventolin.
For me, it's not necessary that it be Kamworor, but SOMEBODY has to try a fast race against Farah.
...and here's an interesting prediction: If Farah is beaten in this race, I think he will become more likeable.
10k training is specific and much faster than mp, so kam is not ready for 26:20s. bekele ran 26:25 alone at pre years back. That was the last wr shot at distances there. If Kamworor or others are really that strong, they can take the pace themselves to 13:10 or better. But they aren't and won't. 26:30s for Farah is possible if Kamworor is nearly as strong as advertised and Farah hammers the last two laps.
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