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Will be watching good luck.

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I honestly think you'll be disappointed with the results. If you're smart about it and aren't injury-prone then staying healthy shouldn't be too much of an issue. I just think the performance gains will be much smaller than you're expecting.

Not to say it isn't a worthwhile experiment though. You'll definitely learn a lot about yourself and who you are as a runner. And who knows, maybe you'll end up being a high-responder to easy mileage.

i'm not going to try to tell you how dumb this is, i'll just try to help

while you're still under 70 mpw, stop doubling. if you're doing 3-4 doubles at 60 mpw that means you're doing just 6 mile runs on average. no bueno

start singling, making your easy run progress to 10-12 miles. then once you're over 75-80 mpw, it becomes easier to handle a 6 mile morning jog followed by an 8 mile afternoon run.

reed wrote:

i'm not going to try to tell you how dumb this is, i'll just try to help

while you're still under 70 mpw, stop doubling. if you're doing 3-4 doubles at 60 mpw that means you're doing just 6 mile runs on average. no bueno

start singling, making your easy run progress to 10-12 miles. then once you're over 75-80 mpw, it becomes easier to handle a 6 mile morning jog followed by an 8 mile afternoon run.

Don't listen to any of this.

reed wrote:

i'm not going to try to tell you how dumb this is, i'll just try to help

while you're still under 70 mpw, stop doubling. if you're doing 3-4 doubles at 60 mpw that means you're doing just 6 mile runs on average. no bueno

start singling, making your easy run progress to 10-12 miles. then once you're over 75-80 mpw, it becomes easier to handle a 6 mile morning jog followed by an 8 mile afternoon run.

Each person has their own theories but Malmo, the Kenyans, etc disagree with you on no doubles under 70mpw. Not saying they are better than you, you might be a 13 minute 5k runner or sub 2:10 marathoner.

Good luck, OP. I thought about doing a similar thing from 60 to 100. My plan was to run 15 mile days (single or double) for as long as I can, then when I need to back down go back to running 8 mile days until I'm fresh again. So maybe my days would go 15, 8, 15, 15, 8, 8, 15, 15, 15, 8, 8, 15, 15, 15, 8, 15, 15, 15, 15, 8, 15, 15, 15, 15..... until eventually 15/day is comfortable.

Don't know if/when I'll do this since I believe you need to make a long-term commitment to really see performance benefits, but it will be interesting to watch how it goes for you.

I am not going to tell you whether this is a good idea or not. Who am I to say, but i like it. So here is what I think.

Increase mileage slowly and don't worry about the pace.

Also some guy named Lydiard once said that he got better results by alternating distances. For example 15 miles followed 10. In 6 days you get to 75.

Double a couple of times per week and hit 100 with your Sunday long run.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Last time I did this I got a wicked case of runner's knee, and I'd run high mileage a few months before. GLHF

I apologize about the delay. I got a biking injury on my arm and had to take a month off.

For those of you that have said you will be following this thread to see what kind of results I get, I will begin the week of Thanksgiving most likely. I just hope that isn't pushing it too soon, then forcing me to be out injured again...

My past 6 week mileage:

47.7mi

0mi injured

17.5mi injured but trying

33.3mi injured but trying

51.5mi back

This week I am looking for around 50 miles again

Next week around 55

Then 100 miles?

Just updating and still into trying this

Please take 2 vitamin D tablets a day!

I am trying this just now.

ran 50 most of summer and ran 16:30 5km and 1:20 half marathon

Spent last three weeks at 70miles per week mostly singles of 10 miles sometimes less somtimes more between 5 -15 miles a day.

my aim is to do a few weeks of 4 am and 10 pm

its harder than you think due to work and logistics. i do not think i can run 14 a day in one run every day though.

good luck

OP remember to have some sort of progression. Jumping straight into 100mpw will certainly cause over training and an acute depletion to your glycogen storage. You can start with around 60 mpw and go up 5 miles a week but i wouldn't go above that. You will see a lot better improvement doing this and make sure you are keeping it at an easy pace. With that sort of mileage the 80/20 rule will be most beneficial for the first 3 months. This can make you fast if done right but don't get to anxious and fall right into it otherwise you will get injured or over trained. Good luck and keep us updated!

reed wrote:

i'm not going to try to tell you how dumb this is, i'll just try to help

while you're still under 70 mpw, stop doubling. if you're doing 3-4 doubles at 60 mpw that means you're doing just 6 mile runs on average. no bueno

start singling, making your easy run progress to 10-12 miles. then once you're over 75-80 mpw, it becomes easier to handle a 6 mile morning jog followed by an 8 mile afternoon run.

As others have said this is nonsense. I have had excellent seasons off lots of shorter doubles. Obviously everyone is different, but I get very stale doing lots of 10+ mile runs and not doubling.

LimJay wrote:

reed wrote:

i'm not going to try to tell you how dumb this is, i'll just try to help

while you're still under 70 mpw, stop doubling. if you're doing 3-4 doubles at 60 mpw that means you're doing just 6 mile runs on average. no bueno

start singling, making your easy run progress to 10-12 miles. then once you're over 75-80 mpw, it becomes easier to handle a 6 mile morning jog followed by an 8 mile afternoon run.

As others have said this is nonsense. I have had excellent seasons off lots of shorter doubles. Obviously everyone is different, but I get very stale doing lots of 10+ mile runs and not doubling.

Well he did say "I'm not going to try to tell you how dumb this is". He just assumed we'd all recognize his comments as dumb and ignore them.

HonestThief wrote:

LimJay wrote:

As others have said this is nonsense. I have had excellent seasons off lots of shorter doubles. Obviously everyone is different, but I get very stale doing lots of 10+ mile runs and not doubling.

Well he did say "I'm not going to try to tell you how dumb this is". He just assumed we'd all recognize his comments as dumb and ignore them.

Lol I caught that now! I double on 50 miles per week. Your body only knows day to day activity, not weekly. So getting use to a 14 miles day more and more often will aid one in the 100 mile week, which I have been doing

This seems like a terrible idea, but I'm interested

I've done both approaches in different seasons and run very similar times. How you spend your minor days (i.e. non-long run, non threshold, non interval days) has only a marginal impact on your fitness. Do what's easiest and works best with your schedule. It's certainly easier to get more miles in on doubles than singles if time allows.

The purpose of base building is to run as many miles as possible, that's most likely going to be in doubles.

I wish I had spent on summer or winter when I was younger doubling a ton rather than doing whatever non-sense i was doing.