Face it- EPO is as common as track spikes & split shorts- Accept it

accept its not and it's actually difficult to get. Also, doing it unmonitored can kill you.

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

2:02:57- THAT is my evidence.

You can't walk anywhere within ten miles of historic hayward field without stepping on an epo bottle

all NOPers are dopers

Almost certainly has to be true. It would be naive to think that distance running is the only "clean" sport out there. And it's very well established that sprinting, cycling, and every major national sport is rife with doping.

2/10

GottaSayIt wrote:

EPO and other drugs are just part of the sport and should be an accepted part of a sound training regime. Just like doing your weekly long run.

It's time to stop the pretending.

If drugs aren't rampant, I don't need to accept it

If drugs are rampant, I refuse to accept the situation and will continue to fight against them in the small way I can.

I'm all for legalizing marijuana and other recreational drugs though.

North Shore wrote:

You can't walk anywhere within ten miles of historic hayward field without stepping on an epo bottle

all NOPers are dopers

Do the NOP athletes even really train around Eugene that much?

North Shore wrote:

You can't walk anywhere within ten miles of historic hayward field without stepping on an epo bottle

all NOPers are dopers

0/10

Nobody wears split shorts these days, so I agree with your premise.

John Clendon wrote:

North Shore wrote:

You can't walk anywhere within ten miles of historic hayward field without stepping on an epo bottle

all NOPers are dopers

Do the NOP athletes even really train around Eugene that much?

Most NOPers (centro, elfie rupp, hasay, salazar, etc.) did a lot of their early doping in eugene.

North Shore wrote:

You can't walk anywhere within ten miles of historic hayward field without stepping on an epo bottle

all NOPers are dopers

HAHA!! Running geek humour at its finest.

GottaSayIt wrote:

EPO and other drugs are just part of the sport and should be an accepted part of a sound training regime. Just like doing your weekly long run.

It's time to stop the pretending.

what other evidence-free claims do you have for us? This is fun.

Lemme guess... you guys thought Armstrong was just a better cyclist than the other too. You probably tossed out phrases like "amazing lung capasity!" "his heart valves are HUGE!"

Thought all those home runs were being hit because "the players lift weights now".

You guys just don't learn.

tpformybunghoe wrote:

accept its not and it's actually difficult to get. Also, doing it unmonitored can kill you.

What are you talking about? Black tar heroin?

GottaSayIt wrote:

Lemme guess... you guys thought Armstrong was just a better cyclist than the other too. You probably tossed out phrases like "amazing lung capasity!" "his heart valves are HUGE!"

You guys just don't learn.

he was busting his azz on his bike 6hrs a day..

that's how!

GottaSayIt wrote:

Lemme guess... you guys thought Armstrong was just a better cyclist than the other too. You probably tossed out phrases like "amazing lung capasity!" "his heart valves are HUGE!"

Thought all those home runs were being hit because "the players lift weights now".

You guys just don't learn.

no, lemme guess - you think Mary Cain's dad gets EPO for her from his hospital

You kids on this message board are so absolutely clueless it's disturbing. Don't you know that the USATF drug tests NOP athletes (Rupp, Hasay, Centro etc.)at least, at a minimum, once a month?

I agree. To think that the highest level of every other sport is rife with dopers and somehow competitive running is different is idiotic. The way the marathon record has been plummeting is simply astonishing. And, please, stop telling me that runners are going to the distance earlier and actually trying now. And shut up about genetics, altitude and low calorie diets. These runners are on blood doping programs administered and monitored by European coaches willing to do anything to cash in. The runners themselves will do anything to get out of poverty and don't care at all about the sport and its integrity and history.