Why do Ivy League schools get to call themselves D1 if they, with a few exceptions, royally suck at sports

In some sports they may be competitive, but in football they could not compete w/ top tier d3.

Because they compete in Division I.

Answer : $$$$$

also they're often respectable, not always title contenders but respectable

genuine random a hole wrote:

In some sports they may be competitive, but in football they could not compete w/ top tier d3.

They tend to be fairly competitive in Div I-AA, which is the division they compete in for football.

They are pretty competitive in D1 in other sports, so don't know what the OP is getting at, unless he's just being a random a hole.

There are plenty of schools that should be somewhat embarrassed to call themselves D1. there are entire conferences that should be embarrassed. Ivy League isn't nearly the worst. and at least theyre really smart.

Looking at the 2 revenue sports and XC on the Men's side

Basketball - Last year, the Ivy was the 14th sagarin rated conference out of 32 with 1/2 of the Ivy teams ranked in the top 1/2 of all D-I schools

football - Last year, the Ivy was ranked 5th of all FCS conferences(I-AA) out of 14 for Sagarin, with about 1/2 being in the top 1/2 of all FCS schools.

In XC - 2 schools made the NCAA championships with Princeton at 11 and Columbia finishing in 17th. In the Northeast region, all 6 Ivy schools finished in the top 11 of 37 schools and in the Mid-Atlantic, both schools were in the top 4 of 26 schools.

If they suck at sports, then most conferences do too. They are not in the elite but they don't suck.

im so smart, oh yeah im d1 wrote:

Why do Ivy League schools get to call themselves D1 if they, with a few exceptions, royally suck at sports

The more relevant question is: why do you royally suck at trolling?

Correction - 4 teams made it on the men's side - Princeton, Columbia, Dartmouth, Harvard. The women's side also saw the top collegiate XC runner in the country with Abbey D'Agostino from Dartmouth

They are Ivy League schools with rigorous academic standards and nerds for students. It is remarkable that they participate in NCAA competition at all.

im so smart, oh yeah im d1 wrote:

Why do Ivy League schools get to call themselves D1 if they, with a few exceptions, royally suck at sports

Try this one: why do most D-I schools pretend they have "student-athletes" on their basketball and football teams?

additional wrote:

Correction - 4 teams made it on the men's side - Princeton, Columbia, Dartmouth, Harvard. The women's side also saw the top collegiate XC runner in the country with Abbey D'Agostino from Dartmouth

You are right. I was actually looking at the championship info from 2012 instead of 2013

julius tacklebox wrote:

Because they compete in Division I.

This. They "get" to call themselves D1 because they are classified as being in D1.

The University of Miami has a history of recruiting athletes who suck at life. Their most recent piece of garbage is now on display --

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/university-miami-qb-busted-dui-charge-article-1.1940445

And the best part is they get to call themselves D1 too.

Why do schools in the SEC and other conferences call themselves educational institutions if they, with a few exceptions, royally suck at academics? Oh Yeah look at me, I am so fast, I can catch a ball, I can dunk too, I am a stud but I can't spell degree. That's why!

Student-athletes,

I agree with your point but if you have been here a week and don't understand spelling is not the Ivy League's strongest point...

genuine random a hole wrote:

In some sports they may be competitive, but in football they could not compete w/ top tier d3.

If you said NIAA, I would agree, but the Ivies are definitely D1. They are probably equal to average small conference D1 in football.

Individual schools pay a membership fee to belong to D1, 2, 3 or NAIA. There are membership requirements for having certain facilities (seating for football and basketball primarily), number of teams, etc. The Ivy League is the conference that the 8 schools belong to and has it's own membership requirements including no athletic scholarships. D1 is the highest level of competition, and gives schools the highest visibility (incl TV coverage) by playing other "name" schools, and has the largest revenue from basketball and football. Bottom line: schools pay to be members of D1 as long as they meet the requirements, then they benefit from the visibility and revenue.

Probably a troll but I'll explain it anyway. The Ivy League holds contests in more sports than any other Division 1 program. The Ivy League is probably about 7th or 8th overall for best overall athletic conferences, out of over 30 in NCAA Division 1. In XC, they qualified 7 overall teams between men and women for NCAAs, putting them as maybe 3rd or 4th best for a conference. Generally they are around 5th best for XC. In lacrosse, several teams are perennial top 10 teams, including Cornell which has won multiple NCAA titles.

In wrestling, again Cornell is often a top 5 team in many, if not most, years.

In crew, almost every Ivy team is competitive most years in Division 1. In hockey, at least one Ivy team is in the top 10 nationally at almost any given point and teams often compete for the national championship. In swimming and diving, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are regularly ranked in the top 25 nationally. In soccer, Ivy teams may not be top 10 often, but there is almost always a team in the top 50 nationally.

In football, obviously Ivy teams aren't as strong as, say, an SEC team, but teams are pretty good for FCS; in fact, I'd say that the Ivy champ in most years could take on a team in BCS ranked around 50th and win a large percentage of the time. In basketball, teams continue to improve as opportunities for poorer recruits become greater; just look at Cornell a few years back or Harvard the past couple of years.

Just because the Ivy League is in most cases not as strong as the Pac 12, Big 10, or SEC does not mean the Ivy League should be anything but D-1. They're stronger than probably 80% of D-1 conferences and deserve their spot more than almost any other conference.

julius tacklebox wrote:

Because they compete in Division I.

A lot of words have been wasted here as the thread should have ended with this comment.