help dedicated HS runner run unattached at HS meets by signing this petition

I predict a 17:20-40 with that training... but consult your coach because he/she knows best.

So...is your coach stalking your every move to make sure you don't run outside of practice? Why don't you just pretend your doing what the coach wants you to do and just do what you want to do anyway. By 'not letting you' are you implying that hes physically restraining you or what? Don't see the issue here.

I won't be signing your petition because I don't agree with the idea of unattached high schoolers competing in high school competitions.

Instead, I suggest you go one of two routes:

1) Sack up and run for the coach you don't like. It is good training for your future when you may have to work with coworkers you don't like. The coach can't be that horrible or he would be replaced.

2) If you don't want to be on your high school team, accept that this means you can't run in high school meets. This means you can only run in local road races and "open" meets, such as those at local universities or through the USATF cross country series.

Plenty of people have been in your situation and found success with one of those two options. Since you want to have it both ways, I instead predict that you will quit running. If your main focus was really on running, you would put that first and petty issues with your coach second.

This. I didn't run for my high school team, but I never had a problem finding meets to run. My club ran a number of all-comer and college meets, and we ran in the junior race at USATF XC Nationals a few years. It was pretty easy to put together a full schedule even without running any high school meets.

dropping knowledge wrote:

so much whine, so much entitlement, so much fail

POD

You have a guy on the team who has run an 800 in 1:55.xx, a sophomore who has run a 2:02.xx, a Freshman who has 4:34.xx 1600, a sophomore who has run 4:46.xx 1600, a brother (twin?) who is still on the team and is faster than you are, and a 4x800 team who has run 8:08.xx.

Those are only some of the guys who are 800 and up. Not saying your team is great but you do have guys who have run some strong or at least good performances. This proves that your coach does know how to train athletes at least some.

By the way, your petition is extremely poorly written with a number of grammatical and spelling errors. If you want people to take you seriously, you should put together a better petition. As of now, you only have 8 supporters, 1 of which is your mom and the petition has been up for 4 hours.

He wont let us be on the team, he has injured countless athletes and still believes his training is superior.

My brother has been training himself since last XC season and has not been trained by the coach since 2012, not only that but the freshman that ran 2:02 was Brandon marquese who was trained by his dad the whole life. The only only thing he and the 1:55 athlete has had 50 400 speed since his freshman year. With decent coaching he could easily be within 1:50 range. The coach looks decent on paper but in reality he is crap

Uncoachable kids become unemployable adults.

Former unattached has been the only good advice so far. I'm serious, no sarcasm. I'm impressed that he ran outside of the HS system as I didn't think anyone younger than me (I assume - perhaps accurately - that I'm one of the oldest on here) had the balls to do that. Good work unattached and good work OP if you follow suit. I had absolutely no problem finding races and I ran only 10k and up. The school's attitude was a combination (depending whom you asked) of 1) they have no idea I existed and 2) they were pissed. This was fine with me but even better for you since you can stick it to the idiot coach by winning races, or at least your age division without his permission or participation. I didn't get that satisfaction since I never met my HS track coach but I think he was a football coach who needed something to do Spring semester and so was probably as big a clown as the guy at your school.

Where I disagree with wisdom and other posters is in the suggestion that you bite the bullet and live with the school situation. The implication that if you don't you will lose interest and disappear from running. That's BS and in fact few 'official HS team' runners run at all after graduation or even during Spring, Summer or Winter breaks. I said few, not none. The crowd on this forum are self-selected from the group who did and still does take it seriously and represent less than one guy per HS class per school. To the next poster who says: 'Hey wait a minute! I ran for the team and was great even after that I ask: remember that 9th man on the XC team you didn't respect at all? Did he EVER run one mile without stopping after the last official practice or race senior year? Of course not!

Don't listen to these jokers, but to Former Unattached and me. Train a lot, train smart, and either don't tell the coach and team OR specifically rub it in!

sickofit wrote:

My brother has been training himself since last XC season and has not been trained by the coach since 2012, not only that but the freshman that ran 2:02 was Brandon marquese who was trained by his dad the whole life. The only only thing he and the 1:55 athlete has had 50 400 speed since his freshman year. With decent coaching he could easily be within 1:50 range. The coach looks decent on paper but in reality he is crap

So why do you want to run in high school meets so badly? Just join a club team (or make your own club) and compete in local college track/xc meets. Tons of high schoolers and open athletes do this.

I want to run at the state series which is where most colleges look for athletes

What happened to Brandon Marquez??? He is great does he not do the same crappy training? && Did he skip track season with hs or was he injured? By the way Im in the same exact position....where my AD at my school doesnt care even though we are a 5A school...

He got injured by our coach for the 3rd season in a row so he just got sick of it so he is training with his dad again and not competing for the school he is in really good shape. the fact of the matter is the coach is letting a state champion caliber team go because of his ego

He would get injured the train with his dad with the injury come then come back run a good time, train under the coach again and get injured

Exact same situation....Oh my gosh... I live in NC though and Im a junior. Its ridiculous My coach is crappy we didnt do tempo runs or mile repeats EVEN ONCE during XC. He is stubborn doesnt know anything and is always late and making us do 200 repeats for Xc??? Im not running for my school next year most likely. My time is in the low 19s however with the right training I could be in the low 18s. Pls dont let your coach f you over... Im doing races like aau nxn region etc. Good luck!!

Oh and im a girl haha

sickofit wrote:

I want to run at the state series which is where most colleges look for athletes

College coaches don\'t care where you run your good races, state series, open races, whatever. That\'s the beauty of this sport compared to team sports, if I\'m coaching soccer or basketball I gotta see an athlete live or on tape to make a true judgment of his or her abilities and potential. For running, show me a results sheet and I can tell you the runners I\'d be interested in talking with.

sickofit wrote:

I want to run at the state series which is where most colleges look for athletes

Who will pay for the liability insurance that your school typically covers? They won't let you compete without it.