guilty as charged wrote:
By accusing True you admit that NOP and OTC are guilty.
That logic makes absolutely no sense.
NOP, OTC, Schumacher's group, etc. can be called into suspicion for a varying number of factors. However, none of them convict them.
Objectively looking at it with the Nike athletes:
- Salazar has coached an athlete who was caught doping (Slaney)
- Nike has sponsored athletes who have been caught with PEDs and who have been involved in very questionable situations (Pistorius, Woods, etc.)
- Farah, when under Salazar, became a world beater at an age that would normally be past a runner's prime. He quite literally went from getting trounced at every race and being beaten by runners who lost their shoe to being undefeatable in almost every major championship.
- Rupp has been on thyroids for who knows how long. Some consider this illegitimate, some don't.
- Centro seems to get soundly beaten routinely during the season, but always manages to perform unexpectedly well during championships.
- Jager, when under Schumacher, experienced absolutely MASSIVE increases in performance in a very short period of time. Yes, I'm very aware that many of you adore Jager, but he debuted with an 8:26 in the Steeple, and cut it down to 8:06 for the American Record in 3 months.
- Solinsky, when under Schumacher, debuted with a 26:59 in the 10k and had a string of consistent and very high level races for 1-2 seasons before basically vanishing due to a string of injuries.
This does not mean any of them are actually guilty.
Performance-wise, it's actually Farah, Jager, and Solinsky who are the most suspicious among them. Rupp at least has had a very steady margin of improvement each year since starting with Salazar in HS.
Farah went from zero to world-beater in the span of a year, Jager lowered his Steeplechase time by 18 seconds in 3 months in the span of 3 races, and Solinsky managed to debut a 10k with an American record followed by a series of excellent 5ks and then nothing.
That's about as far as the suspicion goes, and really, until one of them gets caught, they're innocent. And don't go blabbering that nonsense about Lance, Marion, FloJo, etc. having never been caught. If that logic is applied, then all runners who have never tested positive should be under suspicion for PED use simply because they haven't tested positive.