Track/XC Full Rides

Limestone is probably the best bet, but slate works very well if you have the money to spend. If possible, I'd go with slate.

won't get full ride anywhere good.

I'm a recruiter at a (barely) top thirty school in a flawed location. Since he's American, not foreign we would offer a full at 9:15 or so, even then that's pushing it on the slow end, we would need to see some potential beyond hs such as training alone or in terrible weather etc.

Keep in mind D1 schools get 12.6 scholarships to fill out their entire track and xc roster. They'll only give a couple full rides to the very best recruits they can get, in whatever event the school like to concentrate on. The rest is handed out as partial scholarships.

The teams who are known for distance will give a good portion of that 12.6 to the xc team of course. But as you said he isn't good enough for those schools.

The teams with bad distance programs might give 2-3 scholarships to the distance kids, concentrating the rest on other events. So the distance coach wont waste 1 out of his 3 scholarships on a 9:30 kid. He'll split them up and try to get several decent guys on partial and maybe hold one full for a ringer.

Any mid to lower D1 school would offer him a full-ride most likely. Believe me I've seen much slower kids do it.

That's exactly what he's looking for---a DI school with maybe a little bit of a middle to lower end running program where he could get close to a full.

I don't believe those time will get you a full ride anywhere, across any division. Maybe partial money, yes, but I can't imagine getting a FULL scholarship with those times.

try sjsu

SJSU has no track team for men so I don't think they would see merit in track times (could be wrong) but it is worth a shot. Email the SJSU coach?

A friend of mine ran 9:13 3200m and 15:40 on one of the toughest state meet courses in the country and only got a 25% scholarship.

That being said though the school's team is very throws and mid distance focused.

MasterSheister wrote:

I don't believe those time will get you a full ride anywhere, across any division. Maybe partial money, yes, but I can't imagine getting a FULL scholarship with those times.

D2 schools would give a runner a full scholarship with less

He will not a get a full ride at a D1 school. They are looking at collegiate point getters for full rides. There are only a handful of distance D1 full rides given out.

To increase his stock he has to run sub 4:18 , 9:25.

He may a get a partial and run his way into a full after couple of years. He needs to look at a school thats meets his career goals as well.

Probably not what you want to hear, but a 9:30 two miler will not get a full ride at any D1 program. He might get a some scholarship from some programs late in the process, if they fail to sign several of the recruits they are pursuing and don't have many returners. Unlikely to be more than room, or board. With 12.6 scholarships for all of track and XC, a distance guy has to be a threat to win conference in one or more track events and be all-conference in cross to be considered for a full ride, and there are many runners like that who do not have full rides.

As a point of reference, 9:30 is right around the walk on standard for most good-to-solid D1 programs.

Really? Not even like this tier of schools? I really don't know anything about them, but I know he has expressed interested in NDSU, SDSU, Illinois State, Witchita State, University of Northern Iowa, and Western Illinois.

lots of poor advice on here wrote:

Probably not what you want to hear, but a 9:30 two miler will not get a full ride at any D1 program. He might get a some scholarship from some programs late in the process, if they fail to sign several of the recruits they are pursuing and don't have many returners. Unlikely to be more than room, or board. With 12.6 scholarships for all of track and XC, a distance guy has to be a threat to win conference in one or more track events and be all-conference in cross to be considered for a full ride, and there are many runners like that who do not have full rides.

As a point of reference, 9:30 is right around the walk on standard for most good-to-solid D1 programs.

This is not true at all. A 9:30 2miler would be a walk-on at a top D1 program NOT a mid D1 program. Secondly, I know a few people who received full-rides that were around 9:30. I dont know where you get these notions from, but you are sadly mistaken.

I know a 9:30 isn't unbelievable, but I'm hard-pressed to believe a mid to lower tier DI program wouldn't offer a full ride (or something close to that). The winner of the North Dakota state meet ran 9:24 (15 second win), and while the winner of the South Dakota state meet ran a 9 flat, the next guy was at 9:29.

9:30 two milers obviously aren't the cream of the crop, but contrary to the sentiment on this page, they don't grow on trees. I've barely broken ten as a senior, so I may have an inflated amount of respect for those guys in that 9:30 range.

Just because a school can give 12.6 rides does not mean they do. Most programs are not fully funded. And remember, it is not 12.6 per year, it is at any given time. Most X-C teams you walkon, and if you show significant improvement you can get some money by junior year. I do not know of any runner who gets a full track scholarship, it is a combination of athletic scholarship and need. I have been coahing at the high school and college level for 30 years now and that is the way it has always been. (Although I have never coached a sub 4:05 or 9:00 minute guy, but close)

lmb wrote:

Just because a school can give 12.6 rides does not mean they do. Most programs are not fully funded. And remember, it is not 12.6 per year, it is at any given time. Most X-C teams you walkon, and if you show significant improvement you can get some money by junior year. I do not know of any runner who gets a full track scholarship, it is a combination of athletic scholarship and need. I have been coahing at the high school and college level for 30 years now and that is the way it has always been. (Although I have never coached a sub 4:05 or 9:00 minute guy, but close)

You're wrong dude. I know a few people myself who have gotten full-ride athletic scholarships with decent times but nothing special.