Too much Easy running?

You're too easy

i like it, maybe throw in one more moderate workout, 400 repeats or intervals or even a fartlek in favor of some of the easier early week miles... for a half i don't see the need for 2 runs of 14+.

[quote]buckboy19 wrote:

Monday

AM: 4 Miles recovery

PM: 8 miles Easy w/ 8 0:20 hill sprints

Tuesday

AM: 9 miles including 5 x 1KM @ 5K pace w/1:30 recovery

PM: 4 miles Recovery

Wednesday:

AM: 14 miles Easy

PM: 4 miles Recovery

Thursday:

AM: 8 miles Easy

PM: 4 miles Recovery

Friday:

AM: 12 miles w/ 10K @ HM pace

PM: 4 miles Recovery

Saturday:

AM: 8 miles Easy

PM: 4 miles Recovery

Sunday:

AM: 18 miles Easy

/quote]

the changes i would make:

tuesday: add more 1000s, slow them down to 8k pace if you have to. 5k of volume is pretty low for a 21.1k race.

and add strides or hill sprints on days you feel good.

also, 90-30 seconds slower than half marathon pace is very quick, especially at 100 mpw.

have you ever done 100 mpw before? do you really think you'll be capable of running that much mileage at HMP+60sec?

my usual easy pace is HMP+1:45/mi when i'm running a lot of mileage.

If you can run 10 km at half-marathon pace in training, your half-marathon pace sucks.

And the reason your half-marathon pace sucks is because you're running 10 km tempos way too hard in training.

Half-marathon Training Expert wrote:

If you can run 10 km at half-marathon pace in training, your half-marathon pace sucks.

And the reason your half-marathon pace sucks is because you're running 10 km tempos way too hard in training.

Ahhh...good point. Sorry, that workout wasn't supposed to be "10K @ HM pace"...it's 10K @ HM Heart Rate (a workout from Brad Hudson's book).

Man, I recently tried high mileage with terrible results. 870 miles in 8 weeks and ran so bad. Now I'm down to 60 mpw, all quality, 1 run a day 6 days a week.

High mileage works for some, doesn't for others.

Follow your training plan for this racing season, and during the 2 week break evaluate how you responded to the high mileage and whether or not it was beneficial to you. If its not good for you, just try to train more like Lagat.

IMO gotta have some volume for a good half so no such thing as too many miles (to a point, don't need 150mi weeks or anything). thread title should be "Too little hard running?".i say run a portion of your long run @ M pace as another faster session during the week (8mi easy to warm-up, 8mi @ M pace, then 2mi jog to get your 18). if that's too taxing for you, just do it every other week. (though for me i'd rather do some M pace running every week and 5K pace stuff every 2 weeks...i feel like 5-8mi straight @ M pace gives me a better feel for what the last few miles of a HM will feel like than 1K repeats @ 5K pace ever will). as far as the HM pace stuff, split it up into 3x2mi or 2x3mi at HM pace and it should be doable. 6mi/10K straight at HM pace is tough in the context of a big training week.

Half-marathon Training Expert wrote:

If you can run 10 km at half-marathon pace in training, your half-marathon pace sucks.

And the reason your half-marathon pace sucks is because you're running 10 km tempos way too hard in training.

quit trolling so hard.

Poincare wrote:

quit trolling so hard.

I'm being honest. I thought high mileage would work. Tried it twice. Didn't work for me. Wanna see me training logs?

you realize he's training for a HM right? 60mpw ain't gonna cut it if you want to perform your best.

NotAustin18 wrote:

Poincare wrote:

quit trolling so hard.

I'm being honest. I thought high mileage would work. Tried it twice. Didn't work for me. Wanna see me training logs?

my thoughts wrote:

as far as the HM pace stuff, split it up into 3x2mi or 2x3mi at HM pace and it should be doable. 6mi/10K straight at HM pace is tough in the context of a big training week.

Agreed, although OP was doing it correctly anyways

my thoughts wrote:

you realize he's training for a HM right? 60mpw ain't gonna cut it if you want to perform your best.

NotAustin18 wrote:

I'm being honest. I thought high mileage would work. Tried it twice. Didn't work for me. Wanna see me training logs?

Lagat ran a good half off 60 mpw and a few 70 mile weeks

excluding warmups and cooldowns. Add another 20mpw.

NotAustin18 wrote:

Lagat ran a good half off 60 mpw and a few 70 mile weeks

He was running a lot more than that at the time.

And he has about 20 years more of base than you.

Thanks for the feedback everyone...good to know that this plan isn't all that far fetched. I'll add some strides and shorter reps to some of the Easy runs.

To the poster who asked if I've run high mileage like this before: yes, and I've found it helpful for me. I guess to each their own, but I've always liked running high mileage. I'm very durable (haven't had an injury in the last 4 years) so my body handles and responds well to the big miles. I tend not to keep the miles above 80 for too long though -- maybe for only 4 to 6 weeks outside of base training.