Robby Andrews going for 1k American record on Feb. 2nd

Is that at the Collegiate Invite at the Armory where he is going after the record?

So what is the record exactly

Can't see him getting any records off 1:51

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Can't see him getting any records off 1:51

If you were at the meet or watched the webcast, you can tell that the 1:51 looked very easy, so i'd imagine he can run much faster. I'm guessing that he's been putting in good deal of aerobic work, so he can probably split between 1:49-1:51 for 800m during a 1000m

you can do "aerobic" work all you want, doesn't mean you'll be splitting 1:50 in a 1000m -- there is some serious hauling butt involved.

the US record is held by a guy who never ran much over 50-55 miles/week.

NOP follower wrote:

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Can't see him getting any records off 1:51

If you were at the meet or watched the webcast, you can tell that the 1:51 looked very easy, so i'd imagine he can run much faster. I'm guessing that he's been putting in good deal of aerobic work, so he can probably split between 1:49-1:51 for 800m during a 1000m

I reckon he is more likely to run around 2:20

Some of these records need revising though:

I understand. What's the point of going for the 'record' of an comparatively arbitrary distance? It's like, yeah, Robby Andrews now holds the 1000m American record, but if they so chose to, 10 other people could destroy that record the next day.

I mean, is that really even a record?

ukathleticscoach wrote:

So what is the record exactly

Can't see him getting any records off 1:51

sounds like 1:51 was a workout, now.

Yesley wrote:

I understand. What's the point of going for the 'record' of an comparatively arbitrary distance? It's like, yeah, Robby Andrews now holds the 1000m American record, but if they so chose to, 10 other people could destroy that record the next day.

I mean, is that really even a record?

You're acting like the 1000 is a totally bizarre distance. It's not arbitrary (it's a kilometer!), and it's raced plenty indoors. If there were really 10 other people who could hold an American record, they'd go for it -- how many pro runners would pass up an opportunity to call themselves "American record holder ..."?

dsrunner wrote:

you can do "aerobic" work all you want, doesn't mean you'll be splitting 1:50 in a 1000m -- there is some serious hauling butt involved.

the US record is held by a guy who never ran much over 50-55 miles/week.

And the WR?

List looks old, but I think the indoor record is still 2:17.86 for Krum. If you run a 1:50 800m and then another 200m at the same pace you would finish 1k in 2:17.50.

I would not put too much stock in Robbie's 1:51, JV coached athletes as far back as when he was at Texas has been to train through most competitions and run big when it counts. I suspect that may have been part of the problem with Webb when he was with JV in that Webb likes to always be in top shape and run fast every time he steps foot on the track. With that said, getting the 1k USR is doubtful at this point in the season because you need to be in 1:48 shape and strong enough to hang on the last 200, which to me 1:51 is a training run. If Robbie had run 1:49 I would say sub-2:20 is possible, but it is almost impossible to run 2:16 unless he is in top race shape and with athletes to chase.

Yesley wrote:

What's the point of going for the 'record' of an comparatively arbitrary distance?

You mean the most commonly used measure of distance on the planet?

The kilometer is not arbitrary. It is the mile that is a ridiculous anacronism.

LetsRun.com wrote:

After his 1:51 on Saturday night ... he'll be taking a crack at the American 1k record on Feb. 2nd.

What is wrong with this logic?

That's right: everything.

As usual, letsrunners have no idea how hard a given record is.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

So what is the record exactly

Can't see him getting any records off 1:51

Well he didn't quite get the record but I was wrong there

Very good run