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joecrunner
Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 2:56PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Congrats Evan on a great race!
joecrunner
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 2:58PM - in reply to joecrunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Does this merit the black page brojos?
Mr. Battery
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:00PM - in reply to joecrunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Holy crap. Almost no one even guessed this fast in the prediction thread.

How far behind a bronze medal does this put him in London?
joecrunner
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:05PM - in reply to Mr. Battery Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He is the 8th fastest performer in 2012 currently. He could honestly medal.
Runthedistance2
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:05PM - in reply to joecrunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
USA USA USA
trollism
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:05PM - in reply to Mr. Battery Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Mr. Battery wrote:

Holy crap. Almost no one even guessed this fast in the prediction thread.

How far behind a bronze medal does this put him in London?


Gonna go with 'not far'. Will have an even bigger chance if they manage to bust a couple more Moroccan/French guys cough cough Mekhissi cough.
#jagerbombs
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:08PM - in reply to trollism Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He has a shot at a medal, just depends on how the race unfolds. Congrats!!!! JAGERBOMBSSSS!!!!!
well said
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:11PM - in reply to #jagerbombs Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
7:54.31 Paul Kipsiele Koech
7:56.81 Richard Kipkemboi Mateelong
8:01.67 Abel Kiprop Mutai
8:01.73 Brimin Kiprop Kipruto
8:03.43 Jairus Kipchoge Birech
8:06.10 Conseslus Kipruto
8:06.16 Roba Gari
Evan Jager
8:10.20 Brahim Taleb

Best performances this year. If everything goes his way, he could snag a bronze.
girls gettin real wild
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:13PM - in reply to Mr. Battery Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not very far at all. He will be there on the last lap but probably be outkicked.

He needs sub 8 shape to have a real chance at a medal. He might be in sub 8 shape by the London final. Barely.


So far in distance medal chances:

Rupp 5+10 40%
Lagat 5 30%
1500m guys 25%
*Jager 3kS 20%
Symmonds 8 20%
Hall Mar 15%
Teg 5%
Ritz <5%

We should get at least 1 or 2 medals on the men's side. This is definitely a big improvement from the teams in Beijing, Athens, and Sydney. The women should also get a medal or two probably either Montano and Uceny/Simpson.
#jagerbombs
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:17PM - in reply to girls gettin real wild Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I want to know what he could run in a 5k now... 13:22 back in '09... He would be under 13 now for sure! This kid has incredible strength and knows how to run a race.

Was this thing Rabbited? or run flat out?
joecrunner
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:17PM - in reply to girls gettin real wild Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Rough splits for Evan

2:45
5:25 (2:40)
8:06.81 (2:41ish)
Joe mama
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:18PM - in reply to girls gettin real wild Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think your % are too low on Teg, I'd put him closer to 15%

And why would you put hall with 15% he got beat twice, decisively by Meb
113
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:27PM - in reply to well said Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

well said wrote:

7:54.31 Paul Kipsiele Koech
7:56.81 Richard Kipkemboi Mateelong
8:01.67 Abel Kiprop Mutai
8:01.73 Brimin Kiprop Kipruto
8:03.43 Jairus Kipchoge Birech
8:06.10 Conseslus Kipruto
8:06.16 Roba Gari
Evan Jager
8:10.20 Brahim Taleb

Best performances this year. If everything goes his way, he could snag a bronze.


World #1 Paul Koech, as of now, is not on the Kenyan Olympic team.

World #2 Richard Mateelong ran 8:16 today.

World #5 Jairus Birech is not on the Kenyan Olympic team, and ran 8:10 today.

World #6 Conseslus Kipruto is not on the Kenyan Olympic team.

World #8 is Evan Jager.

World #9 Brahim Taleb ran 8:14 today.

So that leaves only Abel Mutai, Brimin Kipruto, and Roba Gari as athletes that are both a) going to be in the Olympic field and b) clearly better than Jager in 2012. Perhaps Paul Koech ends up in the field, but then he takes the place of Mutai, Kipruto, or Ezekial Kemboi. I don't see how AK would justify that after today's results, but it's clear that Jager is squarely in the medal hunt for London. Freaking awesome.
Steeple Fan
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:30PM - in reply to Joe mama Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He's a legit medal contender, no doubt. He's getting better and better every race, obviously has a ton of confidence, knows how to run with the leaders, and will only have to contend with three Kenyans at the Olympics (one of whom is an unknown, and their superstar is in the middle of a legal battle that might put him in prison...I'm guessing he won't be in top physical/mental condition)

This was Evan's first international event and he beat a lot of people with a lot more experience than him and was just off the heels of one of the best in history.

He's a medal man.
wtfunny
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:31PM - in reply to well said Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Such a shame Koech won't be in the OG. I SO want to see him break the WR.
joecrunner
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:34PM - in reply to #jagerbombs Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2q5
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:36PM - in reply to Runthedistance2 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Has an American ever beaten a Kenyan in any steeple race?
homina homina homina JUICED
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:45PM - in reply to Mr. Battery Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well gaw lee lets just give him the bronze right now.
categorically
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:51PM - in reply to 2q5 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

2q5 wrote:

Has an American ever beaten a Kenyan in any steeple race?


Ummm, Jager beat several Kenyans in this race so I assume you are trolling. The last time an American beat a Kenyan in the Olympic final was 1988.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_1988_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_3000_metres_steeplechase
Probable Probabilities
RE: Evan Jager 8:06.81 AR for 3rd Place! 7/20/2012 3:53PM - in reply to girls gettin real wild Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

girls gettin real wild wrote:

So far in distance medal chances:

Rupp 5+10 40%
Lagat 5 30%
1500m guys 25%
*Jager 3kS 20%
Symmonds 8 20%
Hall Mar 15%
Teg 5%
Ritz <5%



Adjusting for your obvious US bias we are left with the following realistic probabilities for US medals:

Rupp 5+10 10%
Lagat 5 25%
1500m guys 10%
*Jager 3kS 10%
Symmonds 8 10%
Hall Mar 0%
Teg 0%
Ritz 0%

Overall about a 50% chance of zero medals on the men's side. Perhaps a 40% of one and 10% chance of more than one.
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