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rocky ground
RE: OFFICIAL BOSTON UPDATE THREAD 4/16/2012 2:08PM - in reply to AnchorLeg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Anchor Leg - Why is it that we should dominate the sport? There is nothing in the sedentary lifestyles of American young people which would encourage large numbers to be extremely physically active. This is a necessary predicate to having large number of talented athletes emerge. And race tactics when it comes to Americans are largely irrelevant, although I agree today that Hartman ran an intelligence race in the heat. Major marathons bring a number East African runners wholly capable of breaking 27:00 for 10k. We have but two at this level, with perhaps a couple of others who could do it. Hardly surprising - the sport dominates in East African just as football does in America.
are you serious
RE: OFFICIAL BOSTON UPDATE THREAD 4/16/2012 2:23PM - in reply to AnchorLeg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

AnchorLeg wrote:

/quote That is NOT the way to go for the gusto. You want to know how you go for the gusto? See Hartmann. He ran a SMART race and finished 4th. Trying to lead a pack of Kenyans on a hot day shows you have no intention whatsoever of having a decent finish.


At least he can say he led the race. Good for him./quote




Perhaps Mr. Randall was Hartman's rabbit, and wore a few Kenyans and Ethiopians out, along with himself?

If you ever want to beat a pack of Kenyans, you have to lead a pack of them at some point. Perhaps your attitude is part of the reason that an American hasn't won Boston for what-30 years? We should dominate this sport-or at least be competitive-but instead we've become a nation of underachievers-afraid of the east Africans.



People can't be this stupid can they? Randall had no delusions of winning that race, so why do you? He not only lead the pack he took the lead by 5 seconds at one point. And no he was not Hartmann's rabbit, or if he was he done a terrible job.

He ran out front to get on camera for a few minutes. KUDOS to him. Way to lead the charge for the American resurgence in the marathon. Thousands of high schoolers are now dreaming of running a 2:37 marathon.
D.a.n.e. R.a.u.s.c.h.e.n.b.erg
RE: OFFICIAL BOSTON UPDATE THREAD 4/16/2012 2:34PM - in reply to are you serious Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I would give my left nut to run 2:37. Or to even break 3:00 again. Anyone need a nut? Please let me know.
AnchorLeg
RE: OFFICIAL BOSTON UPDATE THREAD 4/16/2012 2:44PM - in reply to rocky ground Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

rocky ground wrote:

Anchor Leg - Why is it that we should dominate the sport? There is nothing in the sedentary lifestyles of American young people which would encourage large numbers to be extremely physically active. This is a necessary predicate to having large number of talented athletes emerge. And race tactics when it comes to Americans are largely irrelevant, although I agree today that Hartman ran an intelligence race in the heat. Major marathons bring a number East African runners wholly capable of breaking 27:00 for 10k. We have but two at this level, with perhaps a couple of others who could do it. Hardly surprising - the sport dominates in East African just as football does in America.


Population of Kenya-40 Million Population of Ethiopia 80 million. Population of USA 310 Million. Ethiopia, and to a lesser degree Kenya are THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. They do not have adequate safe drinking water or food for their populations. That they can generate a few dozen 27 minute 10K runners is testament to their toughness and character. That we can generate only two is pathetic. I don't buy the "Football dominates America." The people attracted to football, as a rule, do not make good runners. There a few hundred Americans above age 22 playing football. There are tens of millions of joggers/runners. Maybe, it's not race tactics-but our talent development tactics that are the problem. I agree with you-the sedentary nature of many kids today is a problem-but there are other bigger problems-I'm sure you can find a thread or two on LRC about the suckiness of collegiate running.
Resuts
RE: OFFICIAL BOSTON UPDATE THREAD 4/16/2012 2:49PM - in reply to D.a.n.e. R.a.u.s.c.h.e.n.b.erg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Results from Boston here for people that haven't seen them yet.
http://www.runningmanathletics.com/internationalnews.htm
comprehending
RE: OFFICIAL BOSTON UPDATE THREAD 4/16/2012 2:56PM - in reply to AnchorLeg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

AnchorLeg wrote:



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I think I get it now. Randall was secretly running the race as a relay. The second leg must have missed the handoff around 10k though, and botched the whole thing. The anchor leg, of course, would have been AnchorLeg.
MarathonMind
RE: OFFICIAL BOSTON UPDATE THREAD 4/16/2012 2:58PM - in reply to AnchorLeg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah but how many Americans are born and live at elevation? Ryan Hall's success seems to support that being a big factor. Solinksy and Rupp we will have to see.
atomic party chair
RE: OFFICIAL BOSTON UPDATE THREAD 4/16/2012 3:11PM - in reply to a high school coach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yes, he was first masters finisher. Didn't know it until a few minutes after the race was over.

a high school coach wrote:

[quote]ScottAtOSU wrote:

Uli is a stud. He doesn't see weather like that in Seattle, that's for sure.[quote]joho wrote:

[quote]fanami wrote:

Can someone please post top 5 American times?


Buried in here:
4 17 Hartmann, Jason 2:14:31 CO USA
5 5 Chebet, Wilson 2:14:56 KEN
6 7 Korir, Laban 2:15:29 KEN
7 19 Butter, Michel 2:16:38 NED
8 10 Barmasai, David 2:17:16 KEN
9 41 Tamura, Hideaki 2:18:15 JPN
10 15 Kisorio, Mathew 2:18:15 KEN
11 184 Chichester, Tim 2:21:10 NY USA
12 20 Reyes, Sergio 2:22:06 CA USA
13 44 Martin, Brendan 2:22:32 MI USA
14 2 Gebremariam, Gebregziabher 2:22:56 ETH
15 85 Steidl, Uli 2:23:08 WA USA[/quote][/quote]

He's also 40. First master?[/quote]
Don B.
RE: OFFICIAL BOSTON UPDATE THREAD 4/16/2012 4:28PM - in reply to atomic party chair Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Shout out for Uli Steidl, University of Portland alum!
Howard and the Running Monkey
RE: OFFICIAL BOSTON UPDATE THREAD 4/16/2012 6:17PM - in reply to Hopkinton Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Does that 25 include the first USA money?
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