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DutchExpert
New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 5:39AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He just ran 2:05:02, scratching more than half a minute of his PR. Way to go!
Jack Wagner
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 5:42AM - in reply to DutchExpert Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lol!
siguiente silaba
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 5:51AM - in reply to DutchExpert Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Dude his PR is 2:03:06
DutchExpert
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 6:05AM - in reply to siguiente silaba Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

siguiente silaba wrote:

Dude his PR is 2:03:06


Yes but only on the downhill wind aided course. Rotterdam is the fastest legal course of the world and he improved on his Chicago "real" PR. Which is impressive.
mo'pak
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 6:16AM - in reply to DutchExpert Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Geoffrey Mutai 2.03.02 aided Boston 2011, best "legal" 2.04.55 Rotterdam.
Moses Mosop 2.03.06 aided Boston 2011, best "legal" 2.05.01 Rotterdam.
Geb.Geb. 2.04.53 aided Boston 2011, best "legal" 2.08.00 New York.
Ryan Hall 2.04.58 aided Boston 2011, best "legal" 2.06.17 London.
CAQLa
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 6:49AM - in reply to DutchExpert Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Rotterdam 2012

Adhane Ethopia 2:04.4
Feleke Ethopia 2:04.49
Mosop Kenya 2:05.03
Unoffical off website viewing.
CAQLa
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 6:56AM - in reply to CAQLa Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Rotterdam 2012
(correction)
Ashane 2:04.47
52.43
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 6:57AM - in reply to DutchExpert Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lol... Haile is still faster than him. Feel really sorry for him not to go to London because of some injuries catching up to him.
Nevertheless, Mosop could be on for the WR in the future. His 59:20 PB may be no sub 59, but still impressive.
So, Makau's WR still stands - when will we see him race again? If he goes to the Olympics my money is on him. But Wilson Kipsang could be catching up to him, the Frankfurt race was SUPER impressive! Without the many turns late in the race he might have eclipsed the WR (is that correct english?).
Nutella1
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 7:06AM - in reply to 52.43 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

52.43 wrote:

Lol... Haile is still faster than him. Feel really sorry for him not to go to London because of some injuries catching up to him.
Nevertheless, Mosop could be on for the WR in the future. His 59:20 PB may be no sub 59, but still impressive.
So, Makau's WR still stands - when will we see him race again? If he goes to the Olympics my money is on him. But Wilson Kipsang could be catching up to him, the Frankfurt race was SUPER impressive! Without the many turns late in the race he might have eclipsed the WR (is that correct english?).


Kipsang and Makau are racing each other next Sunday in London!
52.43
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 7:17AM - in reply to Nutella1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Oh! Always good to first check pages, then post! Looking forward to the next heavyweight battle on the roads (Wanjiru vs Kebede was maybe the best race I watched live, having followed athletics since 2007).
pr100
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 7:23AM - in reply to 52.43 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

52.43 wrote:

Lol... Haile is still faster than him


Haile is third fastest marathoner of all time on record legal courses. The trouble is he's not in that shape at the moment.
Sean Norton
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 9:05AM - in reply to mo'pak Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It's not quite accurate to summarize the Boston course as "downhill." The real factor in the fast times at Boston in 2011 was the tailwind. The Boston course *is* a net downhill, but that doesn't matter much when you consider the challenge of the up-hills. But it really confuses the matter when you just call it a "downhill" course. When Boston doesn't have a tailwind it's a challenging course. Don't believe me? Look at the winning times and compare them to the pancake flat courses. London, Rotterdam, Berlin, Dubai have consistently faster winning times, by a large margin, because the level terrain overrides whatever variance is in play from the weather on any given day. Boston's weather is famously variable in terms of temperature, humidity, and wind. The fast times in 2011 and 1994 were really the result of wind. They were also very slow in 2007 when there was a head wind.
Sean Norton
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 9:12AM - in reply to Sean Norton Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I should also add that Boston's undulating course makes for interesting races. I'd much rather watch a race that is complicated by hills and turns than a ... yawn ... paced run on a flat course. No disrespect intended to the flat marathons, a marathon is a road race. When I want to see a flat race I look for track meet.
well..
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 9:44AM - in reply to Sean Norton Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sean Norton wrote:

It's not quite accurate to summarize the Boston course as "downhill." The real factor in the fast times at Boston in 2011 was the tailwind. The Boston course *is* a net downhill, but that doesn't matter much when you consider the challenge of the up-hills. But it really confuses the matter when you just call it a "downhill" course. When Boston doesn't have a tailwind it's a challenging course. Don't believe me? Look at the winning times and compare them to the pancake flat courses. London, Rotterdam, Berlin, Dubai have consistently faster winning times, by a large margin, because the level terrain overrides whatever variance is in play from the weather on any given day. Boston's weather is famously variable in terms of temperature, humidity, and wind. The fast times in 2011 and 1994 were really the result of wind. They were also very slow in 2007 when there was a head wind.

We all now that, but it´s still not a legit record course.
Sean Norton
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 10:02AM - in reply to well.. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Of course it's not a world record, and should not count as such, but Boston's course has it's own history of times, which is at the core of the sport.
Wow That Really SUCKS
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 11:06AM - in reply to DutchExpert Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

DutchExpert wrote:

He just ran 2:05:02, scratching more than half a minute of his PR. Way to go!


2:05??????????? WOW THAT SUCKS BIG TIME

what happened??????????????????
Howard The Duck
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 12:01PM - in reply to Wow That Really SUCKS Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Wow That Really SUCKS wrote:

[quote]DutchExpert wrote:

He just ran 2:05:02, scratching more than half a minute of his PR. Way to go!


2:05??????????? WOW THAT SUCKS BIG TIME

what happened??????????????????[/quote]

Well, thibnk U could do that....

I could, once, run, 2:05....for the 800 m :)
Track fan 1979
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/15/2012 7:58PM - in reply to DutchExpert Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
His PR is 2:03:06.Please don't give me that point to point, tailwind, downhill crap.
Athlet X
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/16/2012 5:58AM - in reply to well.. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
‘BIG ENGINE’ my ass!!! He ran more like ‘BIG BIRD’. I think that the Kenyans peaked too soon last year; the Ethiopians will dish our more ass whooping this year!!! Watch out for Geneti in London next week.
simba77
RE: New huge PR for Moses Mosop! 4/16/2012 6:03AM - in reply to Athlet X Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ethiopians? Too much talk but little substance. Just one simple answer look at the "Statistics" . Even this weekend how many Kenyans won Big City Marathons compared to Ethiopians?
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