James Lee
Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 12:36PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
When we consider all of the past female greats none can be compared to Veronica Campbell not even my favorite U.S. athlete Allyson Felix. The only event title that seems to evade her is the 100m Olympic gold and if this is achieved to argue about her place/rank amongst the greatest would be foolish.
critic 100
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 1:24PM - in reply to James Lee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What about Flo Jo?
Sprintgeezer
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 1:36PM - in reply to James Lee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
James--

GOAT would be a tough sell.

There is Privalova, who has an incredibly impressive record that would be even better if Marion hadn't been around.

Also in the relatively modern era, there is Perec, Arron (who also would have an unbelievable record if Marion hadn't been running), Gwen Torrence, my favorite Evelyn Ashford, Wilma Rudolph etc in the old era, and, of course, Ottey.

I think it's a tough call...they're all great.

I don't think that VCB stands out in this type of crowd.
James Lee
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 1:37PM - in reply to critic 100 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

critic 100 wrote:

What about Flo Jo?


Flo Who? LOL you're not serious are you?
Sprintgeezer
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 1:38PM - in reply to critic 100 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Who cares about FloJo, Pharmalita, Marion, Block, etc., they don't count.

If it's a free-for-all, of course it's FloJo.
malacoochie
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 1:38PM - in reply to James Lee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
When it comes to GOAT.

I'd say Betty Cuthbert among others is a street ahead of her.
Sprintgeezer
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 1:49PM - in reply to malacoochie Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Also Fanny Blankers-Koen was totally unbelievable in her day:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/modern/olympics_1948_gallery_06.shtml

Bjorn Borg = Fanny Blankers 2.0
James Lee
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 2:21PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sprintgeezer wrote:

James--

GOAT would be a tough sell.

Perec, Arron (who also would have an unbelievable record if Marion hadn't been running), Gwen Torrence, my favorite Evelyn Ashford, Wilma Rudolph etc in the old era, and, of course, Ottey.

I think it's a tough call...they're all great.

I don't think that VCB stands out in this type of crowd


We need to be careful not to reply to other bloggers statement with bias opinion and not facts. I decided to reveal the holes in your usual bias one sided statements, by using a not so reliable source (Wikipedia). Take a look at the medal record breakdown on the right-side of the profile page for each of the links below and tell me what you think.
If you look carefully you would see that Ottey, Campbell-Brown and Felix stands alone. With that said who has a better GOLD-SILVER-BRONZE ratio.... (Oh yea! relays don't count)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_Campbell-Brown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlene_Ottey
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allyson_Felix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilma_Rudolph
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Ashford
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Torrence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie-Jos%C3%A9_P%C3%A9rec
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Arron
puck
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 3:01PM - in reply to James Lee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I used to be a huge fan of female sprinters but looking back, I think that everyone going back to the early 90s was juiced. Christine Arron, Flo Jo, Block, Marion Jones, I dunno... I don't have faith that any of them were clean.
Industree
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 3:17PM - in reply to James Lee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Looking at those Wikipedia pages, Allyson Felix stands alone due to her Gold Medal count. Veronica Campbell-Brown gets the nod over Merlene Ottey.
Sprintgeezer
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 3:25PM - in reply to Industree Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah, but it's not just about medal count. What about WR's, for instance? And should relay medals count in the tally? What about longevity and season-best averages? What about range, from 50/60 to 400?

Interestingly, I notice nobody has mentioned Pharmalita in a favorable light. Good.

I think VCB is great--the only problem is, lots of them are/were great.
Sprintgeezer
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 3:33PM - in reply to Industree Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah, but it's not just about medal count. What about WR's, for instance? And should relay medals count in the tally? What about longevity and season-best averages? What about range, from 50/60 to 400?

Interestingly, I notice nobody has mentioned Pharmalita in a favorable light. Good.

I think VCB is great--the only problem is, lots of them are/were great.
The Answer My Friend
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 3:33PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Evelyn Ashford
All I do is win win win
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 4:12PM - in reply to James Lee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'm inclined to believe James Lee. Also VCB just wins.


Anyone know what happened to Tianna? Did she just run a bad race?
James Lee
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 4:40PM - in reply to Sprintgeezer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Would we consider Wilt Chamberlain as the best Basketball player of all time because he scored 100 points in a single game or because he average 50+ points per game in a single season? Is it possible that Dan Marino is the single greatest quarterback to ever play the game of Football because of what he did statistically in an entire season/career? Maybe we can call Lionel Messi or Ronaldo Lima... (No! I know who! Diego Maradona) the greatest soccer player of all-time because they scored 3+ goals in a single game and statistically they are superior to the rest. The answer is "NO"..................

-----------------Greatest Player By Sport------------------- Basketball= Michael Jordan 6 championships
Soccer= Pele 3 world cup champs/1281 goals scored
Football= Joe Montana 4 Superbowl champ.
(Note Bill Russell won 11 NBA championships but is still consider #3 all-time)

My point is simple... To be considered the best or the greatest, one must win when it counts and statistically rank with the best in that particular sport/event.
JJJJJJJ
RE: Is it safe to say......"Veronica Campbell is the best female sprinter of all-time". 3/11/2012 4:48PM - in reply to James Lee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So that rules out Felix from 'best woman sprinter'.