LAGAT 8:10 AND VERZBIKAS 8:43

I should also mention that Lukas took off really fast, 4:14 I believe.

u shuld also mention it wasnt the high school record

important wrote:

u shuld also mention it wasnt the high school record

he did. thats what the word 'almost' was for

Lagat does his sh*t like a Boss!

where does Lukas time rank all time? indoor and out?

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where does Lukas time rank all time? indoor and out?

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high school indoor 2 mile list

8:40.0 Gerry Lindgren (Rogers, Spokane, Wa) 1964

8:42.7 Jeff Nelson (Burbank, Ca) 1979

8:43.2' Dave Merrick (Lincoln-Way, New Lenox, Il) 1971

8:45.19 Alan Webb (South Lakes, Reston, Va) 2001

8:45.6' Craig Virgin (Lebanon, Il) 1973

That frick'in record finally almost climbed out of Gerry's ass.... but not quite yet! What a bitch! Imagine yourself Verzbikas and looking over with still a lap to go and suddenly Lagat comes rocketing by, setting the New "American" Record (Ha!) Lukas is damn good, but what a ways he's got to go! He'll probably race at least a couple of more times indoors this year, so it ant over yet baby!!!!!

Wow, with all this excitement over Verzbikas, he gets beat by more than 30 seconds? Why are people talking about this guy like he's one of our top runners?

uh... maybe because he had the third fastest American HS indoor 2 mile EVER?

Kind of funny that, while LV's performance was solid, he got lapped by Lagat :-)

Probably a troll but I'll bite. The Verzbikas 'guy' is a kid, a high school kid at that. The kid ran like 14:18 or something like that as a freshman in high school - indoors. Ever since then people have expected big things. But surely you read at least one persons post that mentioned he was a high school kid- right?

does anyone have any of Lagat's splits?

I know he ran a lot of 30.5-30.9's. I'm pretty sure he came through the first mile in 4:10.

For those interested, I have an HD video, from trackside, of the race here--

http://www.williamsburgtrackclub.com/blog/2011/2/13/lagats-mind-boggling-record-video.html

and a brief write-up of the race also--

http://www.williamsburgtrackclub.com/blog/2011/2/12/bernard-lagats-mind-boggling-american-record.html

sweet tempo wrote:

does anyone have any of Lagat's splits?

The full splits are posted at Trackandfieldnews.com.

BTW, Lagat's halves were 4:08.1 and 4:02.0. He split 3000m (FAT) at 7:39.35. That gives Lagat the fastest five indoor 3000m runs by Americans (7:32.43, 7:34.65, 7:35.41, 7:37.97, and 7:39.35).

Verzbicas split 3000m at 8:07.54, moving him up to #2 on the USA high schooler list for that distance. He hit the half in about 8:14, and came back in about 4:29. Still damn good for a high schooler.

BTW, there is a very good photo gallery of the event here:

David Monti, Professional Athletes Consultant

New York Road Runners

Lukas went out too fast, simple as that. If he honestly thought he could run 8:30 a 4:14 makes sense, but if he was purely gunning for the HS record, anything under 4:20 is foolish. He probably doesn't get sucked out with people he can't run with very often. But check Lagat's splits--THAT'S how you run a record.

It should be noted, that Lindgren's first mark of that memorable indoor season was at a meet in San Francisco. He ran 9:00.00. One month later, he ran 8:40.00.

My money is on Lukas.

This is not a hopeless dream, this young man just ran 4:03 for the mile indoors in his first indoor mile of the season and 8:43 for the two-mile in his first indoor two-mile of the season. And remember, the (Indoor) season just began. We aren't event o June or July...imagine sub-4:00 and sub 8:40 outdoors in the same season by the same guy.

‎"It is not the critic who counts, not the one who points out how the strong man stumbled or how the doer of deeds might have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred with sweat and ...dust and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who, if he wins, knows the triumph of high achievement; and who, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt, 1910 speech "Man In The Arena"

fasdfsdafas wrote:

Lukas went out too fast, simple as that.

For the record, Lukas asked for 4:14 to 4:15 and Liam Boylan-Pett hit that split exactly. Your judgment may well be correct that that was too aggressive, but it would be wrong to say he got sucked out too fast. The pacer went the exact speed which Lukas and his coach and father requested.

David Monti, Professional Athletes Consultant

New York Road Runners