skinny dudes and sprints

jeremy warriner. andrew rock. kerron clement. it can work well for quarter milers

if you can exert a lot of force against the track that's all that really matters. helps to be born with a lot of fast twitch muscle fiber.

Why not consider the 800?

Remember Danny Everett?

In the 80s, Carl Lewis started the bumhuggers for men trend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0V5FRli9sE

kim collins 100 meter world champion.

eventually I want to move up in a year or two. right now I want to devlop great speed before I consider moving up in distance.

douglas burke wrote:

kim collins 100 meter world champion.

collins is 5 foot 8 inches and 138 pounds and has run

9.98 for 100

20.20 for 200

46.53 for 400

wow pretty impressive for a little guy. I honestly thought that you have to be atleast 160+ to run under 10 and 20 change. intersting

I remember stories about his refusal to lift weights. I almost wonder what times he would have run with a decent strength program. Still having a damn fine career though.

you can start out skinny:

http://a.espncdn.com/i/mag/2008issues/081108/tgay1.jpg

but if you really want to get to your best as a sprinter, you don't stay there:

http://lolabrigada.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/tyson-gay.jpg

Allyson Felix

KUFI wrote:

I remember stories about his refusal to lift weights. I almost wonder what times he would have run with a decent strength program. Still having a damn fine career though.

I'm sure you're aware of the difference between weights and strength training in general. Yes, he claimed to not do ANY weights. BUT, he was doing high volume of plyos. Also, many Caribbean sprinters do a lot of sleds and hills. Stephen Francis (MVP coach) has athletes pulling up to 50 pounds on sleds (25 pounds for women) for something like 6 months of the season, but Asafa Powell apparently cannot bench 300 for 1 RM and does not do ANY squats.

There are different paths to Rome.

Oh I agree. But with his competitors doing many (if not all) of the same plyos and lifting heavily, it does beg the question as to whether he would have benefited from weight training.

Coach D wrote:

Asafa Powell...does not do ANY squats.

Really? How do you know?

you could definetly be fast in the 100m/200m if your skinny, as long as your born with a higher percentage of fast twitch fibers, but if you want to fully reach you potential you gotta hit the gym

for real? wrote:

Coach D wrote:

Asafa Powell...does not do ANY squats.

Really? How do you know?

Because his coach (Stephen Francis) has said so in coaching seminars, and more than once. They do heavy step ups, though. The real question right now vis a vis the Jamaicans and others is not whether more weights should be done, but whether fewer weights and more 400 training.

The developmental similarities between Bolt and Flojo are amazing, and this year you had Jeter running 53.09 at UCLA (running down Lashinda Demus in the process) one week before running (then) the fastest time in the world at Mt. Sac...and you have Gay running 45-point right before 19.58 (and before doing much pure speed).

Heavy weights are sooooooo 1990's.

Coach D wrote:

KUFI wrote:

I remember stories about his refusal to lift weights. I almost wonder what times he would have run with a decent strength program. Still having a damn fine career though.

I'm sure you're aware of the difference between weights and strength training in general. Yes, he claimed to not do ANY weights. BUT, he was doing high volume of plyos. Also, many Caribbean sprinters do a lot of sleds and hills. Stephen Francis (MVP coach) has athletes pulling up to 50 pounds on sleds (25 pounds for women) for something like 6 months of the season, but Asafa Powell apparently cannot bench 300 for 1 RM and does not do ANY squats.

There are different paths to Rome.

What the hell does the bench press have to do with running?

44s 400m sprinter Jordan Boase from U. of Washington. Skinny, white, and short.

Thin man 100m

lane

1.Willie Deckard...USC

2.Percy Williams...Canada (126 pounds when he won the 28 Olympic 100m)

3.Dr.Del Meriweather...USA

4.Kim Collins...St.Kitts/TCU

5.Warren Edmonson...UCLA

6.Cliff Wiley...Kansas

7.Rey Robinson...Florida A&M

8.Bobby Turner...CPSLO

"What the hell does the bench press have to do with running?"

The upper body actually contributes a fair amount of power production to the lower body. The body doesn't like to grow asymmetrically. Your body is not a collection of parts but one machine.

Examples:

1. Your lower leg lifts are reaching a standstill because you lack the upper body strength to hold the bar correctly.

2. Your biceps won't grow because your traps are small and weak.

Find me someone who can squat 500lbs but can't also bench at least 200lbs. Doesn't exist naturally or without powerlifting gear.

By not doing strength work you are diminishing the results of your plyos. However, if you don't want to bulk up too much then I can see avoiding plyos...ESPECIALLY if you're on AAS which will cause exponential growth in relation to strength and power. Ideally a sprinter, or any runner, would be amazingly strong and powerful without gaining mass as mass slows you down regardless of distance.

Alan