Legit Inquiry: What's with the Oregon Bashing?

If you stick around you will realize a few things...

There is a ton of immaturity and vulgarity on this board, measured by large heapings of lack of respect.

The Oregon bashing is simple jealousy.

If you take it seriously you won't last here very long.

Thanks; I was just wondering whether there was some legitimate reason why so many LR posters are down on Oregon. Didn't know if perhaps the Ducks have been skirting NCAA rules or something like that.

New to the Board wrote:

Thanks; I was just wondering whether there was some legitimate reason why so many LR posters are down on Oregon. Didn't know if perhaps the Ducks have been skirting NCAA rules or something like that.

Your first post came off as a possible/probable troll, but your follow-up post gets a 0/10. Way too obvious, and convenient with the softball set-up question about skirting the rules.

Yeah dead give away. Everyone knows that Bowerman created the NCAA and all of its rules on the back of a box corn flakes

The issues with Oregon begin and end with Mr. Galen Rupp.

canspo wrote:Your first post came off as a possible/probable troll, but your follow-up post gets a 0/10. Way too obvious, and convenient with the softball set-up question about skirting the rules.

Sorry to disappoint, but your assessment of me is dead wrong.

I am legitimately curious. Is the Oregon bashing simply a result of them being too good for too long? (You know, how some people hate the Yankees because of the 20+ championships and so on.) Or is there some other reason that I'm not aware of?

With all due respect, I don't have time to mess around trolling. I'm hoping for some insight/information on this subject.

whoaminot wrote:

The issues with Oregon begin and end with Mr. Galen Rupp.

What's the problem with Galen Rupp?

He is a illegal alien. Not just from another country but from the planet Xenon 98221, his unearthly physique barely masks his unearthly heritage and the paleness of his skin can blind a man from 22 miles away. All of these factors contribute to his clear inlegibility to run track at Oregon let alone being their all-time leading pass interceptor in the 2008 season. Now you know his terrible secret.

I Want to Beleive wrote:

He is a illegal alien. Not just from another country but from the planet Xenon 98221, his unearthly physique barely masks his unearthly heritage and the paleness of his skin can blind a man from 22 miles away. All of these factors contribute to his clear inlegibility to run track at Oregon let alone being their all-time leading pass interceptor in the 2008 season. Now you know his terrible secret.

Speaking of trolls....

New to the Board wrote:

Sorry to disappoint, but your assessment of me is dead wrong.

Well then, my apologies. The Oregon issues have several root causes. 1) Nike and its influence at Oregon. 2) Galen Rupp and his unique road to competing at Oregon and his coaching arrangement with Salazar. 3) Vin's ability to stack rosters with current scholarship limits. 4) Oregon's success.

In my mind, most is petty jealousy, or gross exaggerations of the facts. These are the typical personal attacks, those attacking Rupp for the way he ties his shoes, those making ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims, and those passing on fourth hand, ultimately false, information.

On the other hand, there are others with legitimate questions about issues with valid points on both sides including 1) should an athlete have a private coach as their primary coach while running at a college; 2) what should the influence of a corporation/individual be on a school's athletic department, and 3) Are loaded rosters like Oregon's best for developing talent or are they best for winning champsionships while possibly not begin the best for the individual improvement of each athlete.

No see what I did is called hyperbole to illustrate the daftness of the question you asked and your doomed attempt to make it sound real... like really this is clearly the attempt to build a thread where people just vent about how much they hate Oregon and take cheap shots against Rupp.

Beleive me the truth is out there... or its right in front of the bridge where you spend your time troll.

No see what I did is called hyperbole to illustrate the daftness of the question you asked and your doomed attempt to make it sound real... like really this is clearly the attempt to build a thread where people just vent about how much they hate Oregon and take cheap shots against Rupp.

Beleive me the truth is out there... or its right in front of the bridge where you spend your time troll.

One word "Voodoo Donuts"

canspo wrote:

On the other hand, there are others with legitimate questions about issues with valid points on both sides including 1) should an athlete have a private coach as their primary coach while running at a college; 2) what should the influence of a corporation/individual be on a school's athletic department, and 3) Are loaded rosters like Oregon's best for developing talent or are they best for winning champsionships while possibly not begin the best for the individual improvement of each athlete.

1) I didn't like it when Rupp was supposedly taking classes and training in Portland while running for UO, but it seemed to work for Oregon and Rupp. From what I read, he apparently was doing the majority of his training in Eugene over the past year.

2) All major institutions have BIG donors to the athletic department (see Ok. State). Why is it any different?

3) Good point and definitely worth a good debate.

Also, #3 from the first paragraph,

Vin's ability to have so much depth. Are they truly playing by the same rules as everyone else? Same criticisms when he was at Stanford. Are academic monies being intentially directed towards athletes?

Thanks. That's the type of response I was hoping for. I've always been aware of Point 2, but I'm not at all familiar with the extent to which Points 1 and 3 apply. Is the assumption that Points 1 and 3 are inter-related? (In terms of circumventing NCAA scholarship rules).

JMO, but points 1 and 3 really only relate in the mind of the conspiracy theorists. The more interesting question is the one vcxz raised about mixing money and if all the rules are being followed there. I always had this question when Vin was at Stanford, but am beginning to think he has an ability to get people to buy into a school/program for less money than others. Then again, as an Oregon fan, maybe that view is slanted.

The Nike issue is maybe more appropriately named the Phil Knight issue. Knight undoubtedly has more influence than most alums, but I don't know if that is any different than other schools and their big time donors. Knight may be the most, or one of the most, visible donors because of the size of his gifts and the origin of his fortune.

people dont like oregon the same reason they dont like duke. I am one of them. But guess what thats my right. Sorry i'm not a fair weather/band wagon fan. Nike hands money to Oregon like the fed reserve hands money to congress. Thats tough to root for. Also galen rupp doesn't help either. The guy has had a private coach when he was in high school. Seriously? What a spoiled kid. He raced in Europe while still in college. So he was getting the benefits of being a professional yet keeping his amatuer status. Theres a bunch of stuff I could go on about but I wont.

rupp didn't have a private coach in high school. alberto salazar was the coach at his high school

"Note to German fans: He was getting chased down by a guy who got beat by three oregon runners."

This is a direct quote from an oregon fan after German won the NCAA's as a freshman. I cannot think of a better explaination to oregon bashing. Thet simply have the most sourpuss, arrogant fans in the running community.