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Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/18/2009 11:43PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
if he had focused on it?? I think so

discuss
douglas burke
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 12:45AM - in reply to xxx Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
could have
would have
should have
but didn't
merv the swerv
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 12:47AM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ventolin what say you?
No to 2012
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 2:24AM - in reply to xxx Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Think he lacked the necessary natural endurance.
I remember him running road relay legs of about 3 mile for his club in his prime and he hardly set the road alight as one would have expected of a potential sub 13 minute 5000mt runner.
From memory, as opposed to someone like Moorcroft who ran about 13 dead and still holds relay course records from that era - he never even set a course record in any of his relay legs for his club.
No doubt someone will come up with some statistics to prove ( or blow my memories apart) my observations.
coe sub 13?
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 2:32AM - in reply to No to 2012 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Don't be dumb we've all seen the workout results of where he roasted that top brittish 5k guy in 800m repeats coe coulda run the sub 13 in the early to mid 80's ez. The reason he didn't is cause who in their right mind what's to run for a longer amount of time to excel in a less glamorous event???
No to 2012
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 3:21AM - in reply to coe sub 13? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So he deliberately ran slow when running for his club as opposed to running for himself?
ukathleticscoach
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 4:19AM - in reply to No to 2012 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
When he ran in the relays he was probably not have been in top shape, because of the time of year they are run at.

I've read about that session with Frank Horwill and would guess he was in 13:10-20 shape.

With more endurance training (especially as he ran relatively low mielage) he could potentially have broken 13. Ovett too when he was in his prime, & if he had focused on the event
pert
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 4:36AM - in reply to ukathleticscoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think his top end was probably at the 3000 meter mark.
worth a read
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 4:43AM - in reply to ukathleticscoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
KIPCOD
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 4:44AM - in reply to coe sub 13? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No chance, he was not the aerobic animal neeeded to break 13:00. He was not a very good CC runner
fgfg
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 5:18AM - in reply to xxx Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
YES

Should not have

he was sucessfull


focused

Maybe Webb should not be beating Ritz at 10k
giffypop17
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 5:24AM - in reply to fgfg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'd say anyone who could run 1500 under 3:30 probably could have if they had taken a healthy year to focus on it.
gerald hills
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 5:27AM - in reply to KIPCOD Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

KIPCOD wrote:

No chance, he was not the aerobic animal neeeded to break 13:00. He was not a very good CC runner


which senior XC races did he run?
yes!!!!!!!!!!
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 5:28AM - in reply to giffypop17 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What was the WR in 1984?
KIPCOD
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 6:35AM - in reply to gerald hills Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I remember reading an article and his book where he talked about running CC races for strength. The article and Sebs book clearly discussed that he wasnt cut out for CC. Sorry I cant bring up any reference links. Those races must have been approx 10K?.

Not may guys with his speed 45-46 and 1:41 or (even close to that) were great above 3K
Sagarin
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 7:04AM - in reply to xxx Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
A better question is "How much under 13:00 would David Moorcroft have run with today's pacers and competition?"
xxx
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 7:06AM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
13:00:41
KIPCOD
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 7:28AM - in reply to Sagarin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
His 13:00 was at least the performance of that decade. Massive talent
Sagarin
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 7:35AM - in reply to KIPCOD Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'd agree. Some people accurately argue that runners can get into a "zone" during hypnotic, solo efforts and run to their potential, but I think this effort was worth half to a full second per lap faster with rabbits and/or competition to break the wind and focus on. Certainly a sub-13:00. Maybe a sub-12:55, and this was long before the Africans arrived en masse.
shonuff
RE: Could Coe had gone sub 13 in the 5000m 6/19/2009 7:38AM - in reply to xxx Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yes he definitely could have. He just needed to cross the finish line in less than 13 minutes. Just needed to be a little bit faster.
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