Is Carmelita Jeter clean? (born 24 November 1979)

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RE: Is Carmelita Jeter clean? (born 24 November 1979) 6/15/2009 3:06PM - in reply to xxx

Jeter seems quite doped to me. I mean, I'd never heard of her before this year, and now she is running insanely fast, and her muscles are just ridiculous. 10.83 + ridiculously ripped at age 29 = doped.

you're correct.

sadly we have to face facts about other up-and-coming athletes as well.

that's right - elijah greer.

let's take a look at some statistics.

800 Meters
2006 Indoor 9th Grade 2:05.2
2006 Outdoor 9th Grade 2:01.6
2007 Outdoor 10th Grade 1:51.49a
2008 Indoor 11th Grade 1:52.66a
2008 Outdoor 11th Grade 1:47.68a
2009 Outdoor 12th Grade 1:48.97a

okay, 2:05 as a freshman. i can buy that. it's questionable, but i can buy it. i ran 2:06 in my first year of running and i sort of look like elijah greer. if it had been a 2:02, though...

and then we get to 2:01.6.

woah. HOLD THE PHONE. 2:01.6 from 2:05.2? that is 3.6 seconds in the course of a few MONTHS! that's absolutely insane. i would question the validity of the time itself but we all know high school meets have the most legitimate timing systems. i would also comment on whether his time was wind-aided, but his willowy figure would be buffeted in the wind like a piece of iceberg lettuce in one of those salad spinners. it's pretty clear he would just float away given a good gust.

i just can't stand for this sort of nonsense any more. i'm not even going to begin examining the physique differences as he's aged. other posters in this thread have clearly refuted the idea that you gain muscle as you grow older - i see no need to delve further.

so sayeth the epo pope - elijah greer dopes.

jerseyshore

RE: Is Carmelita Jeter clean? (born 24 November 1979) 6/15/2009 3:15PM - in reply to Garfunk

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wtf, of course she is, plus her coach is a confessed to doping at the dubin inquiry.

bandit40

RE: Is Carmelita Jeter clean? (born 24 November 1979) 6/15/2009 5:21PM - in reply to jerseyshore

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The first thing I thought when I saw her run that 10.85 is she's on somthing. Any world class athlete could be doping. Keep in mind science will always be ahead of the drug tests

Is Not Going To

RE: Is Carmelita Jeter clean? (born 24 November 1979) 6/15/2009 5:35PM - in reply to bandit40

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I'm not going to weigh in on whether or not Jeter is doped, but the person who "never heard of her before" has only himself to blame. She was a bronze medalist in the 100 at the 2007 World Championships and, like about four other women in that very tight race, would have been picked as the winner by a bunch of laymen (and women) asked to look at the finish photo.

Sushi Master

RE: Is Carmelita Jeter clean? (born 24 November 1979) 6/15/2009 6:31PM - in reply to Intergalactic

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She has the upper body of an NFL defensive back. Seriously.

james E

RE: Is Carmelita Jeter clean? (born 24 November 1979) 6/15/2009 6:40PM - in reply to TrackCoach

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TrackCoach wrote:

I will not go so far as to say there isn’t a single U.S. athlete out there 'smart or dumb' enough to try to beat the system. I guess anything is possible, but a single athlete can not do it alone. You would almost have to be part of a ‘system’ that would have to involve doctors and/or other medical trained professionals and coaches, etc. Someone would have to constantly monitor your physiology (blood & hormone stats), your training and competition schedule. All of this is possible, but it would be very expensive, time consuming and definitely beyond what could be accomplished by a lone wolf.

Keep in mind that USATF anti-doping in the last 3 years has improved by leaps and bounds; just about all of the former loopholes have been closed, such as detection of masking agents, requiring a medical waiver for certain medicines for asthma and diabetes, etc., not publishing when & where testing will be conducted and what's in the testing protocols, comparing blood & hormone stats at one time period to another, etc. And probably the most significant things are the zero tolerance policy and saving your blood so that you can be caught in the future as testing technology continues to improve and then dealt with retroactively.

Like I said, anything is possible, but the effort involved in being a doper and the high probability of being caught is just not worth it. Btw, one of the great unintended consequences of Trevor Graham/BALCO is USATF launching a full court press on anti-doping. I know that nothing I say will satisfy the legions of Letsrun conspiracy theorist, but there you have it.

You may be an optimist, but you are definitely correct.

DickGregory

RE: Is Carmelita Jeter clean? (born 24 November 1979) 6/15/2009 6:56PM - in reply to Garfunk

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Who's her coach?..oh yeah...nuff said!!!

perspective

RE: Is Carmelita Jeter clean? (born 24 November 1979) 6/15/2009 7:16PM - in reply to TrackCoach

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When you say that "the effort in being a doper and the high probability of being caught is just not worth it," I applaud the sentiment but question the validity.

If an athlete cannot reach the top clean, but can reach it with drugs, what is he or she really risking in taking drugs? If he/she doesn't get caught, fame and fortune await. If he/she does get caught, all that happens is a two year suspension. So what? Without the drugs the athlete wouldn't have done anything major anyways. Once caught, it's deny, deny, deny and see you in two seasons.

Arlene

RE: Is Carmelita Jeter clean? (born 24 November 1979) 8/19/2009 9:11AM - in reply to Smifson

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