All-time best American 5000m Performances

hello people wrote:

You're either a troll or an idiot (likely both). I could list off performances (every one of which has improved significantly since his 2733, besides conveniently, 2733, well duh he hasn't run a fast 10k yet) but I won't. And his mile time HAS improved 3-4 seconds over the past year, since up until this Winter, his PR was still over 4 minutes (and don't say he didn't try to get under 4 in his first four years of college. He ran 403 as recently as last Spring).

Why wouldn't you list these performances? They seem kind of integral to your asinine argument. Just because he improved on shitty ass PR's does not mean he is way faster than 27:33. That is just poor logic. Basically his other PR's have caught up to what you would expect from a 27:30 runner that he is. Not a low 27 runner.

Hold the presses! He ran a 4:03 mile last spring! Now that is impressive. Going from 4:03 to 3:57 in one year has American Record written all over it. Imagine if he had run a 4:08 last spring. KB, watch out!

You're right, 13:18, by itself, doesn't necessarily indicate that Rupp is at a much higher level than two years ago. But taken into the big picture, (one you seem to be horribly ignorant of) there can be no argument that Rupp hasn't improved over the past two years. His performances speak for themselves.

800- 1:59 (in high school) today 1:48.9

mile- 4:01 (high school through 08) today 3:57

3000- 7:49 today 7:44

5000- 13:30 today 13:18

So yes, by itself, the 13:18 doesn't prove anything decisively other than that Rupp was in better shape this Winter than he has been in the past. But, since you're into bell curves, here is some analysis.

mile: 3:57.5/4:01 = .983

3000: 7:44/7:49 = .989

5000: 13:18/13:30 = .985

Average improvement = .985

Multiply by 27:33 and you get 27:08

Comparing times to what Chelanga ran in a different race is a very weak argument. Rupp has always performed best at 10k relative to the other distances. Whether Chelanga and Salazar reflect this is not indicative of Rupp.

hello people wrote:

here is some analysis.

mile: 3:57.5/4:01 = .983

3000: 7:44/7:49 = .989

5000: 13:18/13:30 = .985

Average improvement = .985

Multiply by 27:33 and you get 27:08

Now I think you're on to something. But lets take this one step further. Rupp should run an indoor 2 Mile. His current PR stands at 8:54 from the 2004 New Balance Games.

Based on his 7:44 he should be able to run 8:21 now. So lets say he runs 8:21.

2 mile : 8:21/ 8:54 = .938

Multiply by 27:33 and you get 25:50.

Lol, yes maybe he can find a two mile to run in (a distance which he hasn't run since high school). All the times I quoted are ones Rupp has run within the past two years, at distances he runs quite often. In the case of the mile and 3k, it's true that he had equivalent times from three years ago, but if anything, that only strengthens my argument that he has made a noticeable jump over the past year.

I realize the 3k value (.989) doesn't mesh so well with the others. Well, Rupp was sick before his 3k race. Daba, the Ethiopian that won (who Rupp would later finish second to by less than half a second in the 5k where he ran 13:18) ran 7:41 in the same race. Lets say for the sake of argument that Rupp was capable of 7:42. Then we get 7:42/7:49 = .985.

.985 x 27:33 = 27:09

114 12:56.27 Dathan Ritzenhein, Zurich, 08-28-09Nice jump from 1487th fastest time!

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153 12:58.21 Bob Kennedy, Zurich, 08-14-96

175 12:58.75 BK

192 12:59.22 Bernard Lagat, London, 07-28-06

194 12:59.29 BL

267 13:01.15 Sydney Maree, Oslo, 07-27-85

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1487 13:16.06 Dathan Ritzenhein, Brasschaat, 07-21-07

Ever since his 2 mile PR I'd been hoping aloud that Ritz would lay off the marathon and get back on the track while he's still young and fast. I should do that more often!

I expected he would get the 10K record eventually, but certainly did not expect the 5K. Nice! This should inspire many more great performances.

And while I'm at it, I would like to reiterate my desire to see Ritz compete in World XC Championships again, alongside Rupp and maybe even Webb.