HSer Cole Sprout runs 8:49.02 3200 at 5,000+ feet in CO

birdbeard wrote:

low key lots of kids in this class and in 2015 would have crushed ryan hall.

What? Like who? Hall ran 4:02 in a HS championship meet and 3:42 right after graduation. And we all know Hall has never even been a mile specialist.

Please lists “lots of” these “low key” guys.

Who cares? He ran the time. No coaches were there. I hope to see a video of 20 kids running g a 2 mile with 200 people in the infield watching.

CO Coach wrote:

This event looks pretty questionable given the current rules in Colorado. Clearly there are way too many people, too close together in this video. The video is also too fuzzy to tell, but clearly there are some adults there too, hopefully none of them are high school coaches. CHSAA has made it clear that no high school coaches in Colorado are to have physical contact with their athletes until June 1st. I'm excited for Cole, this is an amazing performance, but this video looks suspiciously like a track practice, with dozens of kids milling around and cheering him on and that is a clear violation of the rules in Colorado right now.

Definitely. Those groups of kids are pretty selfish, not to mention the two runners (unless they live together). I mean, everyone would like to be running and hanging out in groups right now but there’s a good reason not to. Pretty irresponsible, especially any adults involved.

just sayin... wrote:

CO Coach wrote:

This event looks pretty questionable given the current rules in Colorado. Clearly there are way too many people, too close together in this video. The video is also too fuzzy to tell, but clearly there are some adults there too, hopefully none of them are high school coaches. CHSAA has made it clear that no high school coaches in Colorado are to have physical contact with their athletes until June 1st. I'm excited for Cole, this is an amazing performance, but this video looks suspiciously like a track practice, with dozens of kids milling around and cheering him on and that is a clear violation of the rules in Colorado right now.

Ok Karen

The thing to consider is a video like this could end up on the news and then the authorities could see it, and suddenly every track in the state is going to be roped off with police tape just like every playground already is. They have literally removed the hoops from every basketball court, you can't even go shoot baskets by yourself. We could all end up loosing access to the publicly accessible tracks we have, because of one time trial and video. Like I said, this was an awesome run, Cole is an incredible athlete, I just wish there had been a little more care about following the rules before this video ended up on the internet.

What rules were broken? A bunch of individuals show up at a track. So who is breaking a rule which is probably illegal anyway?

The selfish people are the ones who chose an unhealthy lifestyle for the past 50 years. They increase insurance premiums for everyone and clog up hospitals. Now they are so selfish that they want everyone to try to protect them. These kids are doing what everyone should be doing.

Talent beats training wrote:

What rules were broken? A bunch of individuals show up at a track. So who is breaking a rule which is probably illegal anyway?

This time trial took place at Niwot High School in Boulder County. Boulder County (as well as other counties in the Denver area) just extended their Stay-at-Home order until May 8th:

The Stay-At-Home order in Colorado says:

"Recreate locally. Keep recreational activities within your own county or within about three miles of it to prevent disease spread."

I don't know where Cole Sprout lives, but the high school he competed for (Valor Christian) is 52 miles and two counties away from Niwot High School. I highly doubt he lives in Boulder County, or anywhere near it.

That probably means the other kids didn't travel there. And a stupid order is illegal since it violates his right to assemble.

This is very true. I guess they are above the rules. However, Coles coach can be there is we wanted to be there. Cole no longer represents his HS and the official season is over. No violation is being committed with all seniors.

Having all those people there is very irresponsible and these kids should stop posting these videos out of respect. It’s a shame Cole needs the validation by posting a video

Eston Allred 8:58 (in Utah) -looks like 3,200 m to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubx0E1W_bTQ

birdbeard wrote:

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Depth wise no doubt. Ritz, Hall, and Webb dropped off very sharply after them. The problem with this year is it is all maybes. if you would have stopped any of those other years in early March, they wouldn't look impressive. This class will always be the what if. You have a half dozen 4:05 milers an a bunch of sub 9:00 guys and we will never know what could have happened.

low key lots of kids in this class and in 2015 would have crushed ryan hall. ritz/webb were the class of the class, ritz the GOAT XC runner and webb the GOAT miler.

I really doubt we were going to have a lot of kids running sub 3:43 like hall. Too bad hall though he was a miler in HS and college:)

WHY IS NO ON TALKING ABOUT THIS... they literally had a full on track meet in this conservative corona-denying state!!!!!! This was very planned out and organized time trialing with huge crowds of people and participants, even if they are limited to 20 people the audacity he has to post a video about this when high school runners in NY and NJ need to run workouts on paved roads in masks cause all parks and trails are closed, and of course all by themselves because social distancing! I hope no college coach recruits and signs this kid or any athlete involved in this video time trials, please discuss!

Signed to Stanford. That's how the world works.

kartelite wrote:

birdbeard wrote:

low key lots of kids in this class and in 2015 would have crushed ryan hall.

What? Like who? Hall ran 4:02 in a HS championship meet and 3:42 right after graduation. And we all know Hall has never even been a mile specialist.

Please lists “lots of” these “low key” guys.

Cruz, Nico, Leo, Nathan Green, Strangio all are better in HS than Hall in the mile, some as of today, some of that would have been had meets been ran.

In XC, add Schoppe, Methner, Brown as in the realm.

There were five of us there; 4 immediate family plus his girlfriend.. His sister filmed and you can see the other 3 of us at the finish line, and Coe was running. We don’t know who the other group was, other than the pacers. If you look hard enough you can find a problem anywhere, but there isn’t one here. It’s an open track and anyone can be on it. These kids don’t get to have the opportunity to compete this season. If you are actually a coach how can you not understand and support these moments? After our handful of years in this world, I find myself completely baffled by the nasty people out there who seem to be in the prowl looking for something they can attack or criticize.

birdbeard wrote:

kartelite wrote:

What? Like who? Hall ran 4:02 in a HS championship meet and 3:42 right after graduation. And we all know Hall has never even been a mile specialist.

Please lists “lots of” these “low key” guys.

Cruz, Nico, Leo, Nathan Green, Strangio all are better in HS than Hall in the mile, some as of today, some of that would have been had meets been ran.

In XC, add Schoppe, Methner, Brown as in the realm.

So, to get this straight, you're saying:

1) All 5-8 of these guys would have run a 3:42 1500m (or the equivalent, sub-3:59 1600m or 4:00.5 mile, times probably accomplished a dozen or fewer times in US HS running history)

2) These are the "low key" guys from the class - then who are the "studs"?

3) You think Ryan Hall's mile time (the guy who is the fastest US marathoner ever) is indicative of his distance running prowess

Okay..

Just one of many Lisa Rainesberger prodigies.

forsure wrote:

Definitely. Those groups of kids are pretty selfish, not to mention the two runners (unless they live together). I mean, everyone would like to be running and hanging out in groups right now but there’s a good reason not to. Pretty irresponsible, especially any adults involved.

Oh brother.....

FastTuohy wrote:

Eston Allred 8:58 (in Utah) -looks like 3,200 m to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubx0E1W_bTQ

The thing you have to understand is that if Easton says it was 2 miles, it was 2 miles. I have it on good authority that he was running on an ancient track measured in yards.

I wish Easton would come back to Colorado but I am happy the greatest prep runner of all time is doing well.