Playing it Safe wrote:
You can be sick and not have symptoms.
Then how are you sick?
Know anybody who ever had the flu or a cold and never got any symptoms?
Playing it Safe wrote:
You can be sick and not have symptoms.
Then how are you sick?
Know anybody who ever had the flu or a cold and never got any symptoms?
Playing it Safe wrote:
dunes runner wrote:
[quote]Playing it Safe wrote:
You can be sick and not have symptoms.
Give me some examples.
Give examples....of diseases where people don't have symptoms?
Every infectious disease has a period where you're infected but not symptomatic. If you catch a cold, you don't get sick the instant someone sneezes on you, right? Infectious disease are also contagious at different parts of the disease cycle. Some diseases are most contagious when you're showing symptoms. Some are most contagious when you're not showing symptoms.
Probably the most famous example is HIV. HIV completely changed the way we thought about blood and disease. People can have HIV for years, even decades, without showing symptoms. People can have TB and not show symptoms. That's why you get tested for TB. Viral hepatitis is another example.
If people could only spread disease when they were showing symptoms, there would be much less disease because all you would have to do is avoid sick people!
Many people who test positive for Covid never get any symptoms.
We all understand there is a period when you can have a disease but are not yet getting any symptoms.
This is the only disease that lots of folks have and never get any symptoms.
It's all bullspit and there is an evil agenda behind it
Giles Corey wrote:
Playing it Safe wrote:
Give me some examples.
Give examples....of diseases where people don't have symptoms?
Every infectious disease has a period where you're infected but not symptomatic. If you catch a cold, you don't get sick the instant someone sneezes on you, right? Infectious disease are also contagious at different parts of the disease cycle. Some diseases are most contagious when you're showing symptoms. Some are most contagious when you're not showing symptoms.
Probably the most famous example is HIV. HIV completely changed the way we thought about blood and disease. People can have HIV for years, even decades, without showing symptoms. People can have TB and not show symptoms. That's why you get tested for TB. Viral hepatitis is another example.
If people could only spread disease when they were showing symptoms, there would be much less disease because all you would have to do is avoid sick people!
Many people who test positive for Covid never get any symptoms.
We all understand there is a period when you can have a disease but are not yet getting any symptoms.
This is the only disease that lots of folks have and never get any symptoms.
It's all bullspit and there is an evil agenda behind it
This is not the only disease. Have you ever heard of Typhoid Mary? Do me a favor and read Typhoid Mary's story.
There are many asymptomatic carriers of tuberculosis, Epstein-Barr, Chlamydia and other diseases that infect others without ever having shown symptoms themselves.
To answer your question from your previous post, yes you can carry cold and flu without presenting symptoms as well. You can also have symptoms so mild that you don't really think of yourself as being sick.
But really, read about Typhoid Mary.
Playing it Safe wrote:
There are many asymptomatic carriers of tuberculosis, Epstein-Barr, Chlamydia and other diseases that infect others without ever having shown symptoms themselves.
If so, no one ever locked down the whole world because of it, and humanity has continued to prosper.
yes you can carry cold and flu without presenting symptoms as well. You can also have symptoms so mild that you don't really think of yourself as being sick.
Such people should be embraced, because they can make everyone else get healthy!
dunes runner wrote:
Playing it Safe wrote:
There are many asymptomatic carriers of tuberculosis, Epstein-Barr, Chlamydia and other diseases that infect others without ever having shown symptoms themselves.
If so, no one ever locked down the whole world because of it, and humanity has continued to prosper.
yes you can carry cold and flu without presenting symptoms as well. You can also have symptoms so mild that you don't really think of yourself as being sick.
Such people should be embraced, because they can make everyone else get healthy!
If you get flu from an asymptomatic carrier, you can still get very sick. You don’t get their symptoms, you get the virus, which will affect you however it’s going to affect you.
However anyone who has been sick and recovered or was an asymptomatic carrier should be embraced because they can help people through plasma donation!
Playing it Safe wrote:
If you get flu from an asymptomatic carrier, you can still get very sick. You don’t get their symptoms, you get the virus, which will affect you however it’s going to affect you.
That is false because:
#1- You don't get sick from a healthy person.
#2- If and when you get very sick it would be from some other cause.
Playing it Safe wrote:However anyone who has been sick and recovered or was an asymptomatic carrier should be embraced because they can help people through plasma donation!
That statement completely contradicts your first one.
If plasma from a healthy person (asymptomatic carrier) would help you, then just being around a healthy person (asymptomatic carrier) would have helped you to begin with.
Likewise if plasma from a sick person would help you, then just be around a bunch of sick people. Then when one of them recovers, everyone will recover and be healthy!
dunes runner wrote:
Playing it Safe wrote:
If you get flu from an asymptomatic carrier, you can still get very sick. You don’t get their symptoms, you get the virus, which will affect you however it’s going to affect you.
That is false because:
#1- You don't get sick from a healthy person.
#2- If and when you get very sick it would be from some other cause.
Playing it Safe wrote:However anyone who has been sick and recovered or was an asymptomatic carrier should be embraced because they can help people through plasma donation!
That statement completely contradicts your first one.
If plasma from a healthy person (asymptomatic carrier) would help you, then just being around a healthy person (asymptomatic carrier) would have helped you to begin with.
Likewise if plasma from a sick person would help you, then just be around a bunch of sick people. Then when one of them recovers, everyone will recover and be healthy!
Just for clarification, I'm not responding to you in hopes of changing your mind, because you obviously do not have a mind that can be changed by rational debate. I'm responding to your posts in case anyone else is wondering about these things.
If anyone is interested in learning about the most famous asymptomatic carrier, then read about Typhoid Mary, it's a crazy story.
Playing it Safe wrote:
Just for clarification, I'm not responding to you in hopes of changing your mind, because you obviously do not have a mind that can be changed by rational debate. I'm responding to your posts in case anyone else is wondering about these things.
People already know these guys are nuts and won't change their minds when shown evidence and logic or both. Just because they keep posting nonsense, doesn't mean they "win". Also, if you keep correcting them with your registered name, they start targeting you...
evidence *or logic
Playing it Safe wrote:
Just for clarification, I'm not responding to you in hopes of changing your mind, because you obviously do not have a mind that can be changed by rational debate.
Your attempts to conflate irrational lies and misinformation with rationality were bound to fail from the get-go, because I have no interest in your nonsensical dogma.
However, there is a danger that if you keep reading my postings, that you might become more intelligent.
mud and sand wrote:
Playing it Safe wrote:
Just for clarification, I'm not responding to you in hopes of changing your mind, because you obviously do not have a mind that can be changed by rational debate. I'm responding to your posts in case anyone else is wondering about these things.
People already know these guys are nuts and won't change their minds when shown evidence and logic or both. Just because they keep posting nonsense, doesn't mean they "win". Also, if you keep correcting them with your registered name, they start targeting you...
I know, but I truly believe that for every one of these guys there are 10 who are just misinformed and might want to learn.
I’m not worried about being targeted, I got spit on by a guy wearing a “Fire Fauci” hat on my way out of the hospital yesterday. I can handle a few online trolls.
Playing it Safe wrote:
I’m not worried about being targeted,
Of course not, because you're in the group who's doing the targeting.
I feel you, they start multiple threads about me & use my name in their handles.