Help me to understand wrote:
@Giles wrote:
The mask doesn't protect the wearer, it protects those around the wearer, if the wearer has the virus. Pretty sure the Fauc has been tested and came up negative.
Is that why hospitals have spent millions on masks for their staff?
I work in emergency management for a hospital...Yes, that's exactly why.
FlavoN95 wrote:
@Giles wrote:
The mask doesn't protect the wearer, it protects those around the wearer, if the wearer has the virus.
This has been debunked by basic common sense and an understanding of 8th grade physics. Of course a mask protects the wearer to some degree. It acts as a barrier whether you are wearing it or someone else is wearing it. It's a barrier that provides some added degree of protection from aerosol entering the mouth and nose of the wearer, that would otherwise have entered without a mask.
The decision to wear or not wear one would be weighing whatever degree of added protection one believes it has, versus the inconvenience of wearing one, and the perception of mask wearers are being too hyper-vigilant (snowflakes, basically). Those are the reasons why I don't wear one, despite the added protection it obviously provides, and I'll bet it's why Fauci and others don't wear one. It's subjectively not worth it.
It depends on what type of mask you're talking about. A surgical mask or a cloth mask are to prevent the spread of disease from the wearer. They might offer some direct protection from droplets, but not much, and that isn't the point of them.
If you're talking about a respirator, then yes, that protects the wearer.
I work in emergency management in a hospital. Different masks for different purposes. Feel free to ask questions.
@Giles wrote:
The mask doesn't protect the wearer, it protects those around the wearer, if the wearer has the virus. Pretty sure the Fauc has been tested and came up negative.
Governments have a history of misleading wrote:
Or he came up positive and they're keeping it quiet. ?
Or the whole virus thing is a hoax to get gullible people to put themselves into lock down and eventually submit to toxic and dangerous vaccinations developed by Bill Gates to depopulate the entire world's population.
Oh oh no, but that couldn't be it, because that appears to be exactly what's been happening.
YMMV wrote:
Glendower wrote:
Nonsense, the masks when fitted correctly also dramatically lower your chance of inhaling virus microbes...
If only the virus was passed via aerosol v. droplet transmission....
So, in your belief it can only be transferred via droplet transmission?
dunes runner wrote:
@Giles wrote:
The mask doesn't protect the wearer, it protects those around the wearer, if the wearer has the virus. Pretty sure the Fauc has been tested and came up negative.
Governments have a history of misleading wrote:
Or he came up positive and they're keeping it quiet. ?
Or the whole virus thing is a hoax to get gullible people to put themselves into lock down and eventually submit to toxic and dangerous vaccinations developed by Bill Gates to depopulate the entire world's population.
Oh oh no, but that couldn't be it, because that appears to be exactly what's been happening.
This what happens when the asylums aren't funded and dunes is allowed to roam the streets.
Oh, and a quick question for dunes and the other whackadoodles, why would Bill gates, who made his money selling goods and services to as many people as he could, want less customers? Or any rich person? And don't say they have enough money, rich people never have enough money.
FlavoN95 wrote:
trump unmasked wrote:
^ Fake news. You never took 8th grade physics. Physics starts in 11th grade.
8th grade in my school. Also high school physics, but I think it was 12th grade.
I suspect 4th grade level physics would suffice in explaining to someone how a barrier works to divert or prevent some or all of the flow of a fluid.
You HS has 8th grade? The sequence is Biology > Chemistry > Physics. Did you take Biology in 6th grade?
@Giles wrote:
Oh, and a quick question for dunes and the other brilliant minds on this website, why would Bill gates, who made his money selling goods and services to as many people as he could, want less customers? Or any rich person? And don't say they have enough money, rich people never have enough money.
Bill Gates gets his money from private investors and governments, not from the average person.
Gates has long had an agenda of depopulating the planet, and I've seen plenty of videos posted where he says exactly that, including that his vaccinations are important to depopulate the planet. Look and I'm sure you will find at least a few of them.
There is no good / logical explanation of evil and therefore of why he does what he does, other than that he's a lunatic. Perhaps he figures that if only 10 percent of the population remained, then his wealth would be worth 10 times as much and he would have infinitely more control of the remaining people.
Glendower wrote:
the masks when fitted correctly also dramatically lower your chance of inhaling virus microbes...
Hospitals have determined that ventilators help the patients stop breathing, and therefore dramatically lower their chances of inhaling any harmless viruses.
The only downside is that the patients all die, but the hospitals are rewarded for helping them.
He wants to die and get it over with.
dunes runner wrote:
Glendower wrote:
the masks when fitted correctly also dramatically lower your chance of inhaling virus microbes...
Hospitals have determined that ventilators help the patients stop breathing, and therefore dramatically lower their chances of inhaling any harmless viruses.
The only downside is that the patients all die, but the hospitals are rewarded for helping them.
No.
You are counting all of the deaths WITH ventilators instead of only the counts FROM ventilators and thus you are vastly overstating the risks.
Giles Corey wrote:
What's that all about?
I thought he was wearing a mask, but then I realized he really looks that way.
dunes runner wrote:
Hospitals have determined that ventilators help the patients stop breathing, and therefore dramatically lower their chances of inhaling any harmless viruses.
The only downside is that the patients all die, but the hospitals are rewarded for helping them.
Corey Giles wrote:
You are counting all of the deaths WITH ventilators instead of only the counts FROM ventilators and thus you are vastly overstating the risks.
Killing patients, is not risky to the patients?
dunes runner wrote:
dunes runner wrote:
Hospitals have determined that ventilators help the patients stop breathing, and therefore dramatically lower their chances of inhaling any harmless viruses.
The only downside is that the patients all die, but the hospitals are rewarded for helping them.
Corey Giles wrote:
You are counting all of the deaths WITH ventilators instead of only the counts FROM ventilators and thus you are vastly overstating the risks.
Killing patients, is not risky to the patients?
No, they all had comorbidities and were likely to die soon from conditions like diverticulitis.
Mask is bogus. By wearing a mask, you get yourself infected because you touch your face all the time. That guy is a smart one. He is not going for those fortuneteller scams.
Baltsu wrote:
Mask is bogus. By wearing a mask, you get yourself infected because you touch your face all the time. That guy is a smart one. He is not going for those fortuneteller scams.
If you touch your face do the viruses crawl into your mouth and nose?
dunes runner wrote:
Killing patients, is not risky to the patients?
Corey Giles wrote:
No, they all had comorbidities and were likely to die soon from conditions like diverticulitis.
So you feel it's okay to kill anyone, because they were going to die anyway?
Good grief, Bill Gates is posting on here.
dunes runner wrote:
dunes runner wrote:
Killing patients, is not risky to the patients?
Corey Giles wrote:
No, they all had comorbidities and were likely to die soon from conditions like diverticulitis.
So you feel it's okay to kill anyone, because they were going to die anyway?
Good grief, Bill Gates is posting on here.
Nobody is being killed. They are dying ON ventilators, not FROM ventilators.
Uncle B wrote:
A 79 year old guy who we are told (and I quote) is "The nation's top infectious disease expert.."
You trying to tell me there aren't guys in their 30s, 40s, and 50s who are are not much more in tune to the latest studies and technology than this dinosaur?
He is a figurehead, a face.
mmmh, you don't want a guy with 50 years experience in this sort of thing, publisher of multiple papers and studies, leader on this since HIV, Ebola etc...
.....no, lets get a millennial in there :-(
I am Sam wrote:
Uncle B wrote:
A 79 year old guy who we are told (and I quote) is "The nation's top infectious disease expert.."
You trying to tell me there aren't guys in their 30s, 40s, and 50s who are are not much more in tune to the latest studies and technology than this dinosaur?
He is a figurehead, a face.
mmmh, you don't want a guy with 50 years experience in this sort of thing, publisher of multiple papers and studies, leader on this since HIV, Ebola etc...
.....no, lets get a millennial in there :-(
Yes, go with the 79 year old guy who certainly has kept up with all the new studies and technology of the past several decades at least as well as those in their 30s, 40s, and 50s.
That's why we see new technology dominated by 70 plus year olds.
Why Newton, Einstein, et all had their big breakthroughs at the end of their careers.