We can't continue to let people lose everything and go broke for social distancing there has to be an in between

I agree with you. I think that a lot of people who want to keep the lockdown measures forever are people who have a steady source of income unaffected by the lockdown.

Of course, if I'm a teacher getting paid the same and I can work from home without having to deal with any of the kids, that sounds great.

Same for people who work for big companies that keep them on the payroll even if they barely do anything from home now.

The true victims here are not the people who get the virus (we will all get it anyway), but the business owners! Also, all the service industry workers: restaurants, barbers, hotels, gyms, etc

REOPEN the darn economy in MAY.

I see plenty of 'old' people without masks, while we all have them on.

I see them on the news saying they have no fear.

I see all of us working to keep the disease from getting to them.

These boomers have raped the country for far, far too long.

Open it up tomorrow.

Mountain guy wrote:

Of course, if I'm a teacher getting paid the same and I can work from home without having to deal with any of the kids, that sounds great.

The true victims here are not the people who get the virus (we will all get it anyway), but the business owners! Also, all the service industry workers: restaurants, barbers, hotels, gyms, etc

REOPEN the darn economy in MAY.

I’m a 21 year veteran of the teaching profession and you’re right, this work from home thing is a cake walk compared to dealing with non-stop behaviour issues, but I still agree with you that things need to get back up and running. Many of us will get COVID, miss a couple weeks of work and be good as new again.

I need to add that was not a jab at teachers. It is a tough job! I have 2 energetic kids at home and although they're good kids, it's still a challenge to maintain a daily schedule and do all the school assignments. I just feel like there will never a perfect moment to "reopen" the economy since the virus is here to stay for a while. Considering that, I don't think it's wise to add an economy crisis and possibly a mental health crisis on top of the viral crisis we already have. We just have to accept that there will be people getting sick but we still have to move on, work, learn, live, etc.

Canada Girl wrote:

I’m a 21 year veteran of the teaching profession and you’re right, this work from home thing is a cake walk compared to dealing with non-stop behaviour issues, but I still agree with you that things need to get back up and running. Many of us will get COVID, miss a couple weeks of work and be good as new again.

I agree about reopening in May/June. I would think that whenever we do reopen, we will ease into it, and there will be restrictions that remain in place that lessen over time in phases.

Our family is fortunate in the sense that my husband is in the military, so he still is getting paid, and my job is remote, so nothing has changed for me except my husband and kids are home. I also have a lot more time on my hands due to not driving my kids to and from school, and taking them to activities. I have no room to complain about anything, so I won't, but I feel truly awful for those that are out of work and are so stressed. Not knowing which bill to pay, and which one to let go is awful, let alone how much stress the lack of uncertainty is putting on people's mental well-being and relationships.

We are supposed to move this summer, but pcs' have been put on pause. If we do end up moving, it is going to be chaos due to the backlog in military moves. So that is our stressor, but I completely get that it is nothing compared to what other people are going through right now.

Nothing is being lost by the same restrictions in place worldwide. The worst-governed nations are certainly losing, however, relative to the better-governed.

I wonder which ones would qualify?

Let's see what Newsom has to say at noon today.

My sense is that he wouldn't hold the conference if it's all "nastly lockdowns must continue with no relaxed standards on the horizon". We already know school is out, Probably going to be some near term improvements.

prowling the streets in search of neighborhood grandmas to burn in sacrifice to our lord and savior The Market. may the aroma of their charred lungs please Him and may He bless us with a torrential downpour of dividends. For ever and ever. Amen.

Mountain guy wrote:

I think that a lot of people who want to keep the lockdown measures forever are people who have a steady source of income unaffected by the lockdown.

People "who want to the keep the lockdown measures forever" don't exist. So any opinion about what non-existent people think or why they behave certain ways would seem to define the word irrelevant.

Mountain guy wrote:

I agree with you. I think that a lot of people who want to keep the lockdown measures forever are people who have a steady source of income unaffected by the lockdown.

Of course, if I'm a teacher getting paid the same and I can work from home without having to deal with any of the kids, that sounds great.

Same for people who work for big companies that keep them on the payroll even if they barely do anything from home now.

The true victims here are not the people who get the virus (we will all get it anyway), but the business owners! Also, all the service industry workers: restaurants, barbers, hotels, gyms, etc

REOPEN the darn economy in MAY.

I agree with you. However where I'm from, Queens NY, we shouldn't open until June and we still need to stay in our area.

CA will begin to open up May 1. Masks will still be required unless you're in your house.

Social distancing at stores and restaurants.

So business as usual, only everyone can go to work.

The true victims are the immunocompromised people who are either being put at risk or killed by the stupidity and selfishness of all the "GuVmInT cAnT tAkE mY 'rIgHts'" people who are licking deodorants on TikTok and having huge public gatherings just because they feel like their entertainment and convenience matters more than people's lives.

I'm not disagreeing with you on the fact that a lot of people without steady income are struggling really badly, because you're absolutely right about that. The part I will disagree on is things re-opening. That isn't the solution because it's going to cost lives and prolong the issue in the long run. The government needs to stop throwing billions are horribly-mismanaged corporations and instead start using it to support the people who are going to work everyday and putting themselves at risk because they can't afford not to.

If this gets to a point where we can reasonably control the situation (find an effective treatment, create a vaccine, etc.) by May, then by all means we could, but the thing is that until we resolve the actual virus issue all the other issued will still be present (if less-commonly publicised).

What do you think the small business loans are for? To help your local small businesses. The hotel workers, people working in local restaurants, hair dressers, etc. The goal of that program is to allow businesses to pay their employees, so that they aren't laid off.

The economy has to be reopened sometime soon. We can't keep it closed down forever. What is the government going to do if this continues? Something ridiculous such as "no one has to pay bills?" Stupid idea, highly unrealistic.

The immunocompromised and elderly will have to stay home. I've been shopping for and picking up for groceries for my grandfather and elderly neighbors across the street for a month now. I'd do it for any others who needed it. I'm all for some social distancing measures staying in place, as long as they need too. But we can't shut down the country forever. People need to be at least allowed back to work and kids need to get back to school.

Wow. This is the first that we have been told that opening up actually prolongs the outbreak. The eperts have told us up until now that closing down flattens the curve which extends the timeline so that hospitals can handle the load. But I guess the experts have been wrong all along.

The problem is the coronoavirus.

Problem 1b is stupid people.

Open up the economy prematurely, without tests or tracing or a decline in the curve, and two things happen: (1) No one goes to movies, restaurants, shops, no one travels, etc. and people lose their jobs and businesses go under. (2) Some people do go out/travel/etc, get sick, spread it more, and this whole thing goes on for longer, with people voluntarily not going or doing anything, with more people dying, and with businesses going under.

+1 The IDIOTS screaming to open it all up can catch Corona and drop dead for all I care. I am going to stay far away from people as much as possible until there is a vaccine. We're talking two years here folks. Nothing will be normal until then. Such spoiled children! I WANT WHAT I WANT AND I WANT IT NOW! Sure, get right back in the mix and see what happens. The second wave of Spanish Flu was incredibly ugly. Same will happen to us if we don't exercise discipline.

ATEA4RE wrote:

The problem is the coronoavirus.

Problem 1b is stupid people.

Open up the economy prematurely, without tests or tracing or a decline in the curve, and two things happen: (1) No one goes to movies, restaurants, shops, no one travels, etc. and people lose their jobs and businesses go under. (2) Some people do go out/travel/etc, get sick, spread it more, and this whole thing goes on for longer, with people voluntarily not going or doing anything, with more people dying, and with businesses going under.

From what I'm seeing, things are going the other way.

There are more and more restrictions each week, not less.

We seem to be far from having lax restrictions.

And even if we do allow restaurants to open next week, my guess if that people won't go out to eat in near as much as before.

And I don't think people will be quick to fly on planes and stay in hotels even it opens up.

People are shying away from going to essential jobs that they are allowed to go to.

We are not close to being where you'd like it.

That's the reality.

2 years of small business closed??? Ok make sure there are no races of any kind for 2 years, no football for two years, or anything.,???. Dream on!! I want to see if your singing that song if your small business is shut down for two years. Let me see you sing that song when your homeless, and your kids are on the street. Now back to the real world, business have to open up, with restrictions on April 30.