Tell me why mid-major D-1 is better than other levels

How many men?

Stan Ford wrote:

How many men?

Oh, I did not know it had to be specified by gender. I forgot that women being all-american is clearly lesser than. The person I was responding to said there were 0 all americans & I just proved that was not true . But in terms of men (and more women)- here is an excerpt from the Winthrop Coach's profile on Winthrop-

"Paxton has guided seven Eagles to the NCAA championships; Jeff Greene (1994), Adam Growley (2000), Octavia Goode (2004), Jason Williams and Matthew Elliott (2008), Ashley Howard (2010), and Marthaline Cooper (2015, 2016)."

I recognize that not all of these were all-americans as the standards have changed, but all of these 7 athletes qualified for the NCAA championships. I'm not saying it is P5 level but the person saying they have had zero all-americans is just plain wrong. And I'm fairly certain Jeff Greene was an all-american in the 5km indoors.

DogJogger wrote:

Maybe not high profile but still P5 wrote:

Oregon State and Cal are part of the PAC-12, a "P5" conference.

Those are ALL P5 schools (Big 10, Big 10, Big 10, Big 10, SEC, SEC, Bis 12, Big 12, Pac 12, Pac 12) . This was a list of underfunded and/or underachieving P5 programs.

Definitely be weary of these P5 schools that clearly don't give a crap about their programs...you'd have a better experience at several mid-majors

Wild Duck Whisperer wrote:

DogJogger wrote:

Those are ALL P5 schools (Big 10, Big 10, Big 10, Big 10, SEC, SEC, Bis 12, Big 12, Pac 12, Pac 12) . This was a list of underfunded and/or underachieving P5 programs.

Definitely be weary of these P5 schools that clearly don't give a crap about their programs...you'd have a better experience at several mid-majors

The word is "wary" not "weary."

I will call BS on you. TFRRS doesn’t list all Americans you troll.

I personally have coached athletes to All-American status at Winthrop five times. Ashley Howard 2012 discus (12th place). Marthaline Cooper 2016weight (6th place). Marthaline Cooper 2015 hammer (10th place). Marthaline Cooper 2017 weight (12th place). Marthaline Cooper 2016 hammer (3rd place). Maybe you should do some research before you post.

I entered college at a D1 T&F powerhouse and the new coach from another D1 program (hired just before I got there) told people that he could have offered me a full ride at the previous school, but I would have turned it down (true).

You go to a D1 powerhouse only because you want to be the best.

Injuries cut my career short, but despite my surgeries and injuries, I still run challenging repetition workouts. I don't have a competition in mind. I do it for the same reasons I did in HS and college.

Any other school choice should be about costs, the coaches, the academics, and the abilities of the runners.

We have had hundreds of anecdotal posts and not too many posts taking a 1000ft view.

* Mid-major D-1 universities versus D-2 universities: There are far more mid-major D-1 universities than D-2 universities.

Some posters have stated the only reason athletes participate at mid-majors is so athletes can say they are D-1.

Go to school where you want to go to school. Future N.B.A. Hall of Fame player went to University of Indiana for one school year. Larry Bird hated playing for Bobby Knight, Bird dropped out of college and did not intend to go to college again. One of Larry Bird's brothers' talked Larry Bird into attending Indiana State University, a mid-major D-1 university. Larry Bird did not attend Indiana State to seem cool so he could tell his high school friends he was a D-1 player. Larry Bird chose a school that made him happy.

If University of Indiana makes you happy, attend U. of Indiana. If you may be happier at Indiana State U., go to that school.