Experts Predict that Many of our Lockdown Restrictions will be Permanent or Likely to Recur Seasonally

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

All it took was a legion of scary people to fear everything. We used to think our freedoms could not be taken from us. A few words from the government. A small rejig of laws. A scary flu virus, hyped by the media. And that's all it took. Spying on neighbours. Controlled movement. No questioning of authority. Told to be happy, you're on the brink of losing everything, but don't create, cause you could be dead.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8209125/The-terrifying-reports-lockdown-ends-NO-return-normal.html

Well what do you know. I am not too surprised that mass antibody based tests, securing the vulnerable and herd immunity for the rest is not even an option. All measures will involve trashing the economy and reducing civil liberties.

i happen to know that they're coming for you. And it's not going to be pretty.

But you knew that, too.

All it took was a legion of prescient people to take self protective measures. We used to think that our liberties to come and go as we please would always be there. A few words from the government. A small rejig of laws. A scary virus, highlighted by the media. And that's all it took. We prevented needless deaths.

There was no time to fit it in with just notions of constitutional rights, just as in war there is no time to fit it in with international law. After the dust clears, excuses are confabulated to rationalize it all.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

We used to think our freedoms could not be taken from us. A few words from the government. A small rejig of laws. A scary flu virus, And that's all it took. Spying on neighbours. Controlled movement. No questioning of authority. Told to be happy, you're on the brink of losing everything, but don't create, cause you could be dead.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8209125/The-terrifying-reports-lockdown-ends-NO-return-normal.html

"All it took was a legion of scary people to fear everything...hyped by the media."

Yet you are no different from them, you are employing the same tactics, you are trying to impart fear and paranoia to a different set of already paranoid nut jobs.

Lefties will never let us have our old freedoms back.

This is their wet dream made reality.

Police state, no air travel, no pollution, no economy - just 'essential work' and the rest being given equal handouts by the State. Women wearing veils, the only cross border movement of people being illegal migration (which they will never stop). Permanent virtue signalling and social shaming of rule breakers.

And the best is they can blame it all on Orange Man, while holding the boomers to ransom by telling them that they'll all die if anything changes.

So much for social distancing.

Can't hide from a virus, it's everywhere, on everything!

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/charlotte-woman-hasnt-left-her-house-in-three-weeks-but-tested-positive-for-covid-19/275-77707b1d-fd2f-4a36-bf3e-16beca4104c4

Coevett wrote:

Lefties will never let us have our old freedoms back.

This is their wet dream made reality.

Police state, no air travel, no pollution, no economy - just 'essential work' and the rest being given equal handouts by the State. Women wearing veils, the only cross border movement of people being illegal migration (which they will never stop). Permanent virtue signalling and social shaming of rule breakers.

And the best is they can blame it all on Orange Man, while holding the boomers to ransom by telling them that they'll all die if anything changes.

Yes, the Left has won. There are more freedoms to be destroyed too, as this was but the beginning (it's only been a month). Nothing that can be done to stop the Left short of war, and frankly, the opposition is too cowardly for that - their courage does not match their convictions.

There is almost no point in crying about it any further. Just try to figure out your own place, if any, in the new world order. That's may advice.

Not as long as we take (and pay for) 7 flu vaccines, 3 covid vaccines, 2 cootie vaccines, 2 hepatitis vaccines, and a chickenpox vaccine (if we eat a lot of soup)

I'm not fearful of the action of new normal. Thats what they want us to be. We shouldn't live in fear. We should embrace this challenge. Do I not like it? Yes. Will it take a long time for them to implement successfully? Yes. Will it disrupt our lives as we know it? Yes. What will we do about? That's the question everybody has to ask themselves.

Yep. I never thought they would win this way, and this easily, but they did.

So what are you doing to stop it? All you do is complain on a running message board. Start a movement, organize a protest and take over the governor's office the way student protesters took over university presidents' offices in the 1960s

Social unrest will get attention of politicians and the media. Look at the yellow vests movement as an example of gaining real concessions.

You are a child - a member of the least self-sufficient, most passive, and the most risk averse generation in history. Your generation will never hold power. It will pass to the following generation while you whined on social media about how terribly oppressed you are.

Clown World Resident wrote:

Gold Medal wrote:

Yes, the Left has won. There are more freedoms to be destroyed too, as this was but the beginning (it's only been a month). Nothing that can be done to stop the Left short of war, and frankly, the opposition is too cowardly for that - their courage does not match their convictions.

There is almost no point in crying about it any further. Just try to figure out your own place, if any, in the new world order. That's may advice.

Yep. I never thought they would win this way, and this easily, but they did.

Watchyoo all on about ? It's the right which is in charge in the US and UK.

Clown World Resident wrote:

Gold Medal wrote:

Yes, the Left has won. There are more freedoms to be destroyed too, as this was but the beginning (it's only been a month). Nothing that can be done to stop the Left short of war, and frankly, the opposition is too cowardly for that - their courage does not match their convictions.

There is almost no point in crying about it any further. Just try to figure out your own place, if any, in the new world order. That's may advice.

Yep. I never thought they would win this way, and this easily, but they did.

It is over, a well timed sneak attack by the left. There’s honestly no point in fighting it, just appreciate what liberties you have left because it’s still more than some other countries. It’s time to fall in line now, there’s nothing good that could come of resisting this.

"So what are you doing to stop it?" What do you recommend?

I think what you are seeing is the frustration of many people of being oppressed by governments for many years. Governments do this in many ways, often under the guise of the good for all.

People feel it but do not know what to do about it. Positive change has come slowly. Do you remember back in the 1960's where in many states a marriage of an African American and a white person was not recognized in many states? That's just one example of the governments power to deny people of their right to happiness, or maybe rather pursuit of happiness.

So if you got a plan I'll listen.

Facts Matter? wrote:

So much for social distancing.

Can't hide from a virus, it's everywhere, on everything!

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/charlotte-woman-hasnt-left-her-house-in-three-weeks-but-tested-positive-for-covid-19/275-77707b1d-fd2f-4a36-bf3e-16beca4104c4

We'll soon learn it is transmitted by mosquitoes once summer hits.

dtrys wrote:

"So what are you doing to stop it?" What do you recommend?

I think what you are seeing is the frustration of many people of being oppressed by governments for many years. Governments do this in many ways, often under the guise of the good for all.

People feel it but do not know what to do about it. Positive change has come slowly. Do you remember back in the 1960's where in many states a marriage of an African American and a white person was not recognized in many states? That's just one example of the governments power to deny people of their right to happiness, or maybe rather pursuit of happiness.

So if you got a plan I'll listen.

It's up to you to come up with a plan. I'm old without much time left. This is your world now and your time.

What I remember from the 1960s was that when an oppressive government was drafting young men, who didn't even have the right to vote, against their will and sending them to die in a remote country for no reason, that some refused to go. They burned their draft cards, they went to jail, they wrote protest songs, they started the free speech movement, they organized sit-ins.

I remember watching a violent street battle between protesters and Daly's thugs outside of the Democratic national convention. I remember seeing US army tanks rolling through the streets of Detroit against the backdrop of burned out, still smoldering buildings.

Again, look to the yellow vests in France, or to the civil rights movement of the 50s and 60s as examples. If you think your rights are being denied, passively complaining on social media will not change anything. Stop blaming Boomers, Nancy Pelosi, liberals, Bill Gates, Kara Goucher, Barack Obama, or whoever. Civil disobedience still works, but people need to be willing to risk something.

A Hungry, Violent Mob wrote:

We'll soon learn it is transmitted by mosquitoes once summer hits.

There is was no mosquitos in NYC when the weather is as cold as it was when the outbreak started there...

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

A Hungry, Violent Mob wrote:

We'll soon learn it is transmitted by mosquitoes once summer hits.

There is was no mosquitos in NYC when the weather is as cold as it was when the outbreak started there...

Uh yeah, I didn't say it was the only transmission method. Just like zika was found to transmit in seminal fluid much later. The remote Amazon tribesperson in Brazil probably never visited New York.