10 DAYS TO COLLAPSE, warns Tom Bossert former Homeland Security Advisor

Jesus you're too stupid to live. Those countries absolutely LOCKED DOWN areas that were showing growth in the virus. China has slowly gained a foothold only through massively aggressive action, same with South Korea. On the other hand, Italy and Iran were slow to react, and now Italy, the entire country, is on lockdown, and in Iran the government is digging mass graves for the dead. Look at Iran's numbers. We are two to four weeks behind Italy. If we all aggressively and proactively distance socially, and if testing and treatment catch up here, we can find ourselves in better shape than Italy and Iran. Do you have parents? Grandparents? Anyone you know who is immuno-compromised? If so, consider them while you worry about a few lost races.

Jogger Hobby wrote:

So why hasn't China and SK exploded with cases???? Both of them are DOWN. So obviously none of this bat-sh*t hysteria is going to materialize and you guys are going to look like idiots in a few months when this is all over.

coronaguy wrote:

It’d be great news to me because it would mean that the disease is not killing nearly as many people as we thought it could.

so you don't understand incubation periods?

Looks like Bad Wigins has disappeared? You guys think he caught it? ???

TTH wrote:

evidence? wrote:

If this is the case then I am optimistic.

Virus would be way less deadly than people say it is

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/dr-marty-makary-coronavirus-think-145547356.html

Why would this be good news you nitwit?

He's suggesting that if there were already a huge number of infections, but (as far as we know) very few people have died, that would imply an extremely low mortality rate.

And that sounds good, but he's probably wrong --mostly because he (and an awful lot of other people) are ignoring the fact that most of those infected folks just got infected very recently, and haven't had *time* to get really sick, and die,... yet.

A little more time will tell. Either the number of deaths will sky-rocket soon, or not.

If it doesn't, that'll mean:

1. There *weren't* really so many people infected,

2. The virus *isn't* really so deadly, and the mortality rate is MUCH lower than it seemed to be.

OR a whole lot of people will start getting really sick and dying in the very near future.

All logic and all the evidence thus far suggests the latter is the much more likely.

It looks like we're following the Italian course,... except that it's probably going to be much worse here than there, because they've actually been much more serious and responsible than we have.

(We, of course, are operating at a gigantic disadvantage to most other countries, since we handed the reins of the federal government to a cabal of Nazi-criminal imbeciles. And we're all about to pay a truly horrible price for that.)

Bad Wigins wrote:

There are more than 6,000 hospitals in the US, and only 1040 confirmed cases of COVID-19. Even in the unlikely event that the case load increases by a consistent 5% per day, there will still be only 2600 cases 20 days from now. The hospitals would have to flip a coin to see who gets one.

The only infrastructure that could possibly be overwhelmed is whoever is in charge of dealing with mobs of panicky idiots. Fortunately there are vigilantes like me helping out.

https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals

You posted this three days ago. In that period of time, the number of confirmed cases has more than doubled. It's risen from 1040 to 2488. By tomorrow, it will have risen to at least the 2600 cases you mention--but five times as fast as your unfounded prophecy.

Stick with science, BW. You make a bad vigilante. What's the opposite of alarmist? You're asleep.

This ^

+1

Jogger Hobby wrote:

So why hasn't China and SK exploded with cases???? Both of them are DOWN. So obviously none of this bat-sh*t hysteria is going to materialize and you guys are going to look like idiots in a few months when this is all over.

Having logic and reason prevail on this web site is quite nice.

Based on the evidence, the whole cv19 thing has been a hoax and a scam from the very beginning.

Most likely, all of the deaths attributed to cv19 that haven't matched historical norms have been due to other causes such as:

the terrible air pollution in China;

smoking;

industrial pollution;

the fact that China was actively spraying citizens in the streets with organophosphate pesticides!!!!!

emphysema;

any preexisting conditions that got worse;

any combination of these;

and any other factors not yet mentioned.

JesseIsGarbage wrote:

Those countries absolutely LOCKED DOWN areas that were showing growth in the virus. China has slowly gained a foothold only through massively aggressive action, same with South Korea.

They locked it down because they thought it was the original SARS at first, and when they figured out it wasn't, they still didn't know what they were dealing with and assumed the worst. Those fears proved unfounded: the upper bound for death rates is 3% and it doesn't spread fast because it has a long generation time. And probably much lower because they aren't aware of every case. Did they go around testing everyone with flu-like symptoms? I doubt it - that's around 200 million people.

What more likely stopped it is the simple preventive measures that make people careful not to catch viruses.

Locking things down didn't help the Italians one bit. And I don't believe they haven't got 2000 ICU beds for those who need them. There's more to that story than what people want to hear from their cherry-picked, badly-sourced anecdotes. If you're going to try to aggressively quarantine every possible case of COVID, then obviously you have to quarantine everyone with flu symptoms, and chase down everyone they met and quarantine them too - millions of people in total. What system has the resources to do that?

I've been following this pretty closely since January and, I'll admit, early on the information coming out of China was very disconcerting. Using factors based on early data from China, I estimated a global death toll in the millions.

Since that time, my forecast has been adjusted down significantly for the following reasons:

The fatality rate is not catastrophic

Early on, reports jumped around from 1-2% to 2-4% and higher. The higher rates always had caveats to them (old, immune deficient, bad cultural practices, etc) but those caveats weren't always immediately known.

Conclusion: Every life is important, but we're looking at a rate under 1% that particularly hits older people (that are no longer active in the economy) and, overall, this will not have an impact in-line with the current hysteria.

South Korean and Chinese infection rates are on the decline

The virus *is* controllable - that is to say it is not uncontrollable. Every country is going to solve this problem in a different way with varying degrees of success but it.will.end.

Conclusion: This is not going to be at a Hollywood-movie level contagion.

**We are not nearly as densely populated as South Korea and China

The actions that were put into action in South Korea & China were necessary because these are incredibly densely populated areas and cities. It's tough to understand this if you haven't been there. In my travels to the Orient, particularly China, it was eye-opening to see the size and scale of *residential* housing in large cities. I live in the Northeast and no city here compares to, say, Hong Kong in terms of concentration. Yes, we have large cities but they are typically spread out across many miles/districts/villages (think Boston, New York City, Philadelphia) not like Hong Kong which has city-block upon city-block of high-rise, ultra high-density apartments typically housing multi-generational families (a recipe for high transmission and fatality). There simply is no comparison. The suburbs will not be affected with the exception of occasional pockets and individuals as long as reasonable measures are taken. That's not to say the virus won't reach the suburbs - it will - it just will not spread like wildfire.

Conclusion: our cities are not as dense and skew younger than South Korea/China and this will reduce transmission rate and fatalities. And with the cancellation of large events (marathons, half-marathons, St. Patrick's Day parades, NBA, etc), closure of secondary schools, and (hopefully) wide-scale work-from-home options for a of couple weeks, this virus will not reach the suburbs in any material way.

We are taking action

Based on what I'm seeing on my facebook feed, the suburban soccer-mom volunteer brigade has mobilized and they are doing everything in their god-given power to save the lives and souls of their little Johnny and Suzy regardless of the lifetime of traumatic memories they are creating by doing so.

We've also cancelled a lot of large-scale events and the word has gotten out about what to do to keep yourself safe.

Conclusion: Because information has been widely distributed, people are taking preventative measures.

Spring Is Coming

Ultimately, this will take care of everything

Conclusion: see line above.

Also, we're calling this the Chinese Bat Flu. -Krispy

MUCH more concerning was my conversation with that same employee who told me that the US government was now handling all the food and supplies distribution to grocery stores.

With that confirmation alone giving us just another hint about where this all has the potential to go, with the US government also long stockpiling for a pandemic as reported in this recent SHTFPlan story, this employee also told me it was a concern that they weren't able to get their full, normal shipment ordered due to government now controlling where food goes because, as had happened the previous weekend, people were ditching the city stores to come out to the country stores where many fewer people were, also giving us a hint of where this might go should 'S' really 'HTF' in the days and weeks ahead.

With the Washington DC/Baltimore area 'city folks' sure to 'bug out' to the mountains and the country where many fewer people live and 'the virus' hadn't yet arrived giving us a hint of what might be ahead (when I lived in the city, I had my bugout route to the mountains already planned out so why wouldn't others?), we'll go ahead and explore all of the latest signs of potential trouble ahead including this November of 2019 job posting at the CDC requesting 'public health advisors' for a 'quarantine program', the same kinds of programs we're now seeing spring up across America and the world.

As mentioned in the last paragraph of this story above, the Center's For Disease Control in America was looking for 'public health advisors' for a quarantine program back in November of 2019 and as we see in a small snippet of that job posting we've embedded above, many of the cities listed as job locations are now being hard struck by coronavirus.

From Dallas, Texas to Seattle, Washington to Los Angeles, California to Miami, Florida to Boston, Massachusetts to NY City and the entire state of New York and beyond, almost every city we see listed as job locations for public health advisors for a quarantine program either may soon need to or are now setting up quarantine programs. And while we're unable to absolutely confirm CDC pre-knowledge of a coming pandemic, the Wuhan coronavirus timeline provides an interesting tidbit reporting the first coronavirus patient discovered there was on November 17th, two days after the CDC job announcement was made. The CDC job announcement saved at archive here. Yet as Susan Duclos pointed out, maybe the CDC was just doing their jobs, recognizing an unfolding public health crisis in China while even the Chinese government was hiding it.

KayBee · 2 hours ago

Daughter in Ohio said she talked to a walmart-manager friend today and was told they aren't allowed to "receive any shipments for the next 3 weeks" starting today. I wondered if it was just that area, shipments of what, or whether it involved Walmart-China's connections?? She didn't know.

The one thing we know for sure.....don't listen to THIS guy.

Insists virus won't hit 2600 cases until April 1st., at the MOST. Implies actually number will be lower.

3 days later and we have 2.700+ and rising rapidly. Hell, we might have 2600 new cases on the day of april 1st alone

The guy has been proven to be a know-nothing on the topic.

case closed.

Just 7 more days until Armageddon. According to this "homeland security advisor", whatever the heck that is.

Roni 19 wrote:

Just 7 more days until Armageddon. According to this "homeland security advisor", whatever the heck that is.

We need to wait until Kushner passing along the real polished numbers to Pence for release.

Fake news reports wrote:

Look at the video you posted.

They're spraying people with pesticides.

Yup. In Memphis, TN.

Fake news reports wrote:

Look at the video you posted.

They're spraying people with pesticides.

The people are dying from the pesticides, not from an imaginary virus.

Commies, socialists, and Leftist fellow travelers are dumb, but they're not usually quite that dumb. They're using different sprays from bleach with water, hydrogen peroxide mixtures, etc. Some real denial and next level conspiracy thinking to blame the spraying.

Wuhan-400 wrote:

Commies, socialists, and Leftist fellow travelers are dumb, but they're not usually quite that dumb. They're using different sprays from bleach with water, hydrogen peroxide mixtures, etc. Some real denial and next level conspiracy thinking to blame the spraying.

The primary stupid conspiracy theorist on this thread is you, and I doubt you're a socialist.

Roni 19 wrote:

Just 7 more days until Armageddon. According to this "homeland security advisor", whatever the heck that is.

Looking accurate so far

Leninist ghouls praying for death. I hope you're disappointed.

Fake news reports wrote:

Wuhan-400 wrote:

Commies, socialists, and Leftist fellow travelers are dumb, but they're not usually quite that dumb. They're using different sprays from bleach with water, hydrogen peroxide mixtures, etc. Some real denial and next level conspiracy thinking to blame the spraying.

The primary stupid conspiracy theorist on this thread is you, and I doubt you're a socialist.

Of course, I'm a conspiracy factualist, but some some conspiracies theories are more plausible than others, many are downright probable. Prosecuting attorneys convict people on conspiracy charges all the time, including conspiracies that involved hundreds if not thousands of people in Mafia, drug cartels, etc.

ALL Walmarts to begin CLOSING 11PM-6AM -- even Superstores:

Other stores and chains also reducing hours.