Coronavirus is inevitable so why the useless containment

I agree. Well said.

No one freaked out this much for the bad coronavirus in 2003 or so.

This one seems slightly worse. Not by too much.

I think general hygeine makes sense. Any further seems like out of touch media-fuelled showbusiness.

This is not Armageddon. People take less precaution for HIV.

New cases in China are now slowing to less than 50 a day out of a population of 1.3 billion. Looking likely that at least 100 x more people will die of flu in China this year than coronavirus.

Yet 50 million in Europe and USA will die and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

Maybe it was a Chinese bio weapon after all?

elephino wrote:

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Exactly, everyone will be exposed to it eventually but it can at least be slowed down

Two Tonne Jessie wrote:

New cases in China are now slowing to less than 50 a day out of a population of 1.3 billion. Looking likely that at least 100 x more people will die of flu in China this year than coronavirus.

Yet 50 million in Europe and USA will die and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

Maybe it was a Chinese bio weapon after all?

Your post isn’t going to age well.

Hi Hardloper!

coronavirus is Thanos wrote:

So people showing no symptoms can spread it, and as China tried to keep it contained within Wuhan and has failed. Containment within China has failed.

Ahem ... Trump evacuate infected Americans working and visiting in Wuhan and brought them into the US, and set them free, many weeks ago. The virus is in the US because Trump FAILED.

Hi, TAA!

Hardloper wrote:

elephino wrote:

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Exactly, everyone will be exposed to it eventually but it can at least be slowed down

It will be nice if the containment can be placed in a nice chart like the Twitter post, and I hope it does. However, people are still doing everyday things of going out and being exposed and spreading the disease.

Doesnt slowing it down give us a chance to create a vaccine?

coach wrote:

Doesnt slowing it down give us a chance to create a vaccine?

I don't know for sure, but if this is like swine flu then yes. It will spread this spring, slow down in the summer, and when it is ready to pick up speed again next flu season there will be a shot for it. Main difference being it spreads faster and is deadlier.

bettingodds wrote:

No one freaked out this much for the bad coronavirus in 2003 or so.

This one seems slightly worse. Not by too much. [ /quote]

That one killed <900 people. This one has already killed >3300 people. It is easily at least 10 times as worse. I'll be shocked if US deaths are less than 900.

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I think general hygeine makes sense. Any further seems like out of touch media-fuelled showbusiness.

Depends on what you mean by general hygiene. I like that Starbucks is discontinuing refillable cups. I like that Costco has increased sanitization of touching surfaces. I like that we are testing people with travel history to affected areas. If you think anything above washing your hands is just for ratings, you are nuts.

This is not Armageddon. People take less precaution for HIV.

This is not Armageddon. I don't know if you are high risk for HIV, but "people" may be low risk for HIV.

hillrunning124 wrote:

Two Tonne Jessie wrote:

New cases in China are now slowing to less than 50 a day out of a population of 1.3 billion. Looking likely that at least 100 x more people will die of flu in China this year than coronavirus.

Yet 50 million in Europe and USA will die and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

Maybe it was a Chinese bio weapon after all?

Your post isn’t going to age well.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/900488/chinas-coronavirus-recovery-all-fake-whistleblowers-residents-claim

Still - impossible to know what for sure is happening in China. It's China.

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1. *Nothing* the Chinese government is telling you should be trusted. (Not by anyone with an IQ over 80, anyway.)

2. Similarly, under a Nazi-criminal Trump administration, NOTHING our federal government tells you should be trusted. (Actually, under the Trump admin, the smart baseline assumption is that the truth is generally pretty close to the exact opposite of anything they say.)

3. Most of the serious epidemiology experts I've been hearing seem to think that containment efforts will ultimately fail to stop the spread, and that eventually something in the rough ballpark of half the world's population will be infected.

4. It appears that a sizable proportion of those will get very sick, and a sizable proportion of *those* will die from it.

5. If it's 2% of those who get infected (which seems entirely plausible, based on the little we know so far), that's maybe 1% of the population.

6. That's 70 million people. In the US, that's 3.5 million people.

7. If you consider that somehow 'trivial,' or 'no big deal,' you're an absolute moron.

8. The only foreseeable development that seems likely to alter the above prognosis in a major way (as far as I'm aware, so far, anyway) is the creation and administration of an effective vaccine.

9. It sounds like there's a slim chance that could happen in a matter of months, and a better chance it could happen in 1-2 years.

10. If serious containment efforts have a chance to slow the spread enough that many less people might be infected before such time as #8 could happen, then, obviously, you can make a case that it's a good idea to try and do that.

11. Obviously, you need to try and weigh the cost (mostly the cost of massive economic dislocation and slow-down) against that potential benefit,... but it sure as hell looks like massive economic damage is gonna happen no matter what.

12. Comparing it to the seasonal flu, or to Kobe Bryant, or to 9/11, is just so freaking dumb it's scary.

Comparing it to the 1918 flu pandemic, sure, *that* makes a lot of sense, and is certainly at least somewhat useful. Comparing it to routine seasonal flu is just stunningly stupid, yet that's what 98% of the morons publicly opining about it continue to do every day.

13. *One* thing is absolutely clear: the arrival of this crisis when America's held hostage by the most corrupt, and most incompetent, federal government our country has ever had in its history

*guarantees* that the outcome will be much, much, much worse than it should have been or needed to be.

THAT you can take to the bank.

I'm a Trump voter but I still agree with most of what you've written here.

“Our experience with this so far has shown that the virus is volatile and unpredictable,” Killian said. “We’ve had patients who, within an hour’s time, show no symptoms to going to acute symptoms and being transferred to the hospital. And we’ve had patients die relatively quickly under those circumstances…We know very little about how fast this may act.”

https://www.bellevuereporter.com/news/life-care-center-of-kirkland-breaks-silence-at-saturday-press-conference/?amp&__twitter_impression=true

coronavirus is Thanos wrote:

Also like to compare to 9/11 where at that time, that was all the news that would be circulating and people were afraid to go fly and stock market had to be suspended to try to calm the panic.

It's exactly the same. I knew from the first announcement in both cases that the whole thing was a fraud. 911 turned out to be an inside job which was well known and planned well in advance with both Pres Bush and VP Cheney playing prime roles, the so called attacks were by drones, and the buildings were imploded from within by explosives.

Now we have this false flag virus attack which is exactly the same type of event. And all this containment nonsense is likewise a fraud. How exactly is anyone going to contain a virus, that they don't even understand??? Plus every effort that's been made has apparently failed, and has only served to spread the so called "virus" even farther.

Personally I think the "story" is the virus, the same that it was with the 911 "attacks."

[quote]still must try to contain it wrote:

“We’ve had patients who, within an hour’s time, show no symptoms to going to acute symptoms and being transferred to the hospital. And we’ve had patients die relatively quickly under those circumstances"

Here we go again. The people died very quickly right after they began being treated!

Thus they died from the treatments! --- which I would call murder --- not any supposed imaginary virus.

still must try to contain it wrote:

“We’ve had patients who, within an hour’s time, show no symptoms to going to acute symptoms and being transferred to the hospital. And we’ve had patients die relatively quickly under those circumstances"

Here we go again. The people died very quickly right after they began being treated!

Thus they died from the treatments! --- which I would call murder --- not any supposed imaginary virus.[/quote]