US coronavirus death toll is OVER 7%, way higher than everywhere else

no. it means the US is not testing anybody and the number means absolutely nothing.

And that it hit a nursing home, so obviously the fatality numbers were going to be high. Small sample size...

If it's 7% with multiple thousands of cases, then it might mean something.

WorriedMan wrote:

154 cases and already 11 dead so 7.14% death rate.

It's much higher than in Germany, Italy, Iran, South Korea , and even China.

Does that prove that the US healthcare system is garbage?

The healthcare system is garbage. No need for a virus to proof that.

I will just tell you that the WHO, which is reporting mortality data, divided the number of deaths by the number infected and multiplied to get a mortality rate.

The standard method is to divide the number of deaths by the population.

As you can see this gives a vastly different number

US population = 250 MM give or take

11 deaths

11/250MM= .000004 %

to get the crude death rate you can multiply by 1000

The US is also the most unhealthy country in the world. So, yea it makes sense a bunch of old, unhealthy people are dying from a new virus.

It's the "other health condition factors," that they're not telling us anything about.

Germany has 262 cas and zero death.

Death rate is calculated from the people infected, not from the total population because what is measured is not how widespread the virus is but how good of a job the healthcare system is doing at saving people life.

xlev2 wrote:

I will just tell you that the WHO, which is reporting mortality data, divided the number of deaths by the number infected and multiplied to get a mortality rate.

The standard method is to divide the number of deaths by the population.

As you can see this gives a vastly different number

US population = 250 MM give or take

11 deaths

11/250MM= .000004 %

to get the crude death rate you can multiply by 1000

The US population is closer to 330 Million.

Get you facts straight before you start your calculations.

The truth is likely the infection rate is much higher than reported. A lot of people likely have it and feel it is just a cold so they don't seek treatment. While the nursing home in Kirkland may seem like ground zero in the US, there are likely small pockets all over the US from before anyone knew to be scared.

xlev2 wrote:

I will just tell you that the WHO, which is reporting mortality data, divided the number of deaths by the number infected and multiplied to get a mortality rate.

The standard method is to divide the number of deaths by the population.

As you can see this gives a vastly different number

US population = 250 MM give or take

11 deaths

11/250MM= .000004 %

to get the crude death rate you can multiply by 1000

INCORRECT!

WHO is reporting FATALITY RATE which it is correctly calculating as number of deaths divided by number of positive diagnoses.

You are right about the definition of mortality rate but that is simply not what is being reported, is not what is being represented as being reported and is terribly irrelevant at this early stage of a virus's spread.

high school xc coach wrote:

no. it means the US is not testing anybody and the number means absolutely nothing.

I agree that US is not testing anyone and that will skew the apparent mortality rate (because number of identified cases will be artificially low). However, the US approach to not testing will also lead to far greater spread of the virus.

Sad but true.

yes. I mean 40 % of americans are obese and most live very unhealthy. Its obvious that you are weak and would be easily killed by a virus

WorriedMan wrote:

154 cases and already 11 dead so 7.14% death rate.

It's much higher than in Germany, Italy, Iran, South Korea , and even China.

Does that prove that the US healthcare system is garbage?

Bad analysis.

Consider... here and in other countries, people have been infected with the virus. Some of those people haven’t had any symptoms and it is out of their system. Others, who have had mild reaction didn’t know they had it and recovered without knowing.

My point is this, your statistic is based on known (tested for) people who have the virus against deaths of people who had the virous and were tested. That is a major limiting factor to the overall numbers of people who have it and are fine or have had mild reaction to it.

Statistics can and are often manipulated and your calculus is a prime example. Stop the fear and work on your ignorance.

WorriedMan wrote:

154 cases and already 11 dead so 7.14% death rate.

It's much higher than in Germany, Italy, Iran, South Korea , and even China.

Does that prove that the US healthcare system is garbage?

Sounds like you would be happier in another country. We would be happier with that outcome as well.

high school xc coach wrote:

no. it means the US is not testing anybody and the number means absolutely nothing.

No it means they aren't taking it seriously here. Japan closed their schools down countrywide for less deaths than are reported in Seattle.

dockter phil wrote:

WorriedMan wrote:

154 cases and already 11 dead so 7.14% death rate.

It's much higher than in Germany, Italy, Iran, South Korea , and even China.

Does that prove that the US healthcare system is garbage?

Sounds like you would be happier in another country. We would be happier with that outcome as well.

Actually we don't want them to leave. We want people like you who think questioning American superiority is grounds for expulsion to get some education though.

42% are obese, so something like diabetes will prematurely kill way more Americans than COVID19.

The same liberals keep posting crap like this over and again. Sure, people will die in the US from this virus. Panic time? NO. Liberals don't even believe what they "preach." Climate change (man iniated) is a hoax and here is another.

We have thousands of cases in USA. Not 100.

Initial tests cdc sent out didn’t work. They redid them and sent out again. We lost weeks.

10,000 kits mostly to west sent.. capable testing by Friday. Then, need to be unpacked and people trained on them. Another 10k kits, the next week.

There are 2 viruses. One super bad and one harder to get and less than 2% fatality. The super bad one is in China ground zero. USA one is the harder to get one.

For the next 2 weeks, all the numbers of infected Americans is wrong. And then, it will suddenly balloon into thousands.

After that, we will have rolling regional suspensions of large gatherings till it passes.