What are the typical Covid-19 symotoms? This is not reported!

Fever and cough. Not the nose and sinus cold symptoms. Not the muscle aches of the flu.

Possible damage to testicles and kidneys kind of alarms me.

I live in Seattle and just had a meeting with a co-worker who was hacking away the whole time and popping cough drops. Then proceeds to tell us that a few days before he had the chills and when he was teaching a ski class he was very out of breath (shortness of breath is another symptom). We pointed out that he had all the symptoms and he blew it off like no big deal.

What a dumb ass. I feel like reporting him to management and getting him kicked out of the building.

yo that's terrifying. Work from home for the next week or so. Get that guy to go get tested. Let everyone in the office know and encourage them to stay home, someone else probably already has it...

I'd rather know what the "other" health problems everyone who dies from this seems to have. (Seems to be sedentary, late-50s males with poor diets and diabetes.)

This really is, as so many of you like to say, a nothingburger.

zoomx83 wrote:

This really is, as so many of you like to say, a nothingburger.

Harvard epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch estimates that between 40 percent and 70 percent of people around the world will be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19. Lawrence Gostin said that these sorts of predictions are “exactly why we need to take it seriously.”

“It’s a confusing tone that the president set,” said Lawrence Gostin, a professor Georgetown University who also directs the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. He said the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have underscored the seriousness of the virus, but Trump’s comments appear “to fluff it off as if it’s a common cold.”

What is the mortality rate of Covid-19?

Best guess-estimate is 2%, and the current human population is 7.7 billion

If we assume 70% of people get Covid-19, and a mortality rate of 2%, then Covid-19 will kill 154 million people.

How many people with Covid-19 need to be hospitalized?

If we assume 70% of people get Covid-19, and 20% of the infected population have serious symptoms, then 1.54 billion people need to be hospitalized.

Can healthcare systems across the world cope? NO!

If the only way to kill this virus is to stop huge amounts of the Global Economy from functioning, then will this action prick the biggest financial bubble in human history? Maybe!

“HOPE FOR THE BEST, BUT PREPARE FOR THE WORST”

Actually the WHO updated it to 3.4% today. It went up.

Granted, not all cases are reporting, but still.

Sorry typo:

Instead of 154 million people, it should be 107 million people.

Instead of 1.54 billion people, it should be 1.078 billion people.

My mental arithmetic skills are not what they used to be!

Wow, they are dropping the ball on this. Total re-active, not pro-active.

Jerry Maguire wrote:

1000 wrote:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/why-its-too-early-to-compare-covid-19-with-the-flu

What is the mortality rate of Covid-19?

Best guess-estimate is 2%, and the current human population is 7.7 billion

If we assume 70% of people get Covid-19, and a mortality rate of 2%, then Covid-19 will kill 154 million people.

How many people with Covid-19 need to be hospitalized?

If we assume 70% of people get Covid-19, and 20% of the infected population have serious symptoms, then 1.54 billion people need to be hospitalized.

Can healthcare systems across the world cope? NO!

If the only way to kill this virus is to stop huge amounts of the Global Economy from functioning, then will this action prick the biggest financial bubble in human history? Maybe!

“HOPE FOR THE BEST, BUT PREPARE FOR THE WORST”

Actually the WHO updated it to 3.4% today. It went up.

Granted, not all cases are reporting, but still.

Some arithmetic rearrangements and reasonable assumptions (death rate < infection rate, reported < actual) can show that if you assume not all deaths or infections are reported, the actual death rate will be lower than the reported death rate. Of course we don't know by how much.

I think 2-3 weeks of global standstill would be the best move. Scarily, most people think it is nothing. Close to 1000 actual cases in Seattle right now I imagine.

Also, the CDC today said they would stop reporting the number of people under investigation. If that doesn't scare you then I guess you just can't be bothered to be worried. Only a little over 400 in the states had been tested last I checked, and a whopping 2,500 test kits are supposed to go out by the end of the week.

Seattle doing everything not to take it serious. It's "just the flu bro" 2.0. Probably still have Sonics games Oops. I mean theatre and other public events.

Spring break coming up too and it's business as usual here in the US! Spring break gonna be like "Chinese New Year 2020 2.0"! Massive spreading event. Most people I know haven't cancelled there plans.

So no one knows? That's my point. The last cold I had in August of this year went like this:

Day 1 -3: Feeling out of touch, weak, slight sore throat.

Day 3 - 6: Very sore throat, tired, no desire to do anything but sleep

Day 6 -10: Runny nose, tired, bad cough with mucus

Day 10-14: Runny nose, chronic cough.

Day 15: I had much of my strength back but not 100%

By day 7 I went running but was very difficult. The cough and phlegm lasted for another 2 months!

So what is Covid-19 like?

jdjdj wrote:

So no one knows? That's my point. The last cold I had in August of this year went like this:

Day 1 -3: Feeling out of touch, weak, slight sore throat.

Day 3 - 6: Very sore throat, tired, no desire to do anything but sleep

Day 6 -10: Runny nose, tired, bad cough with mucus

Day 10-14: Runny nose, chronic cough.

Day 15: I had much of my strength back but not 100%

By day 7 I went running but was very difficult. The cough and phlegm lasted for another 2 months!

So what is Covid-19 like?

I thought sweating and fever were signs.

jdjdj wrote:

So what is Covid-19 like?

It is:

"Just the flu, bro."

"This is normal"

"Buy stocks."

1000 wrote:

How many people with Covid-19 need to be hospitalized?

If we assume 70% of people get Covid-19, and 20% of the infected population have serious symptoms, then 1.54 billion people need to be hospitalized.

Fixed the boldface for you.

In fact, 80,000 out of 1.4 billion Chinese have been diagnosed (upper bound for hospitalized) so far, which is 0.006%.

And that count is stable, not changing fast anymore. If we assume the expert who said what you wanted to hear is correct, 70% of the Chinese population should have been infected by now, for a hospitalization rate of 80000/1000000000 = .008%.

Bad Wigins wrote:

In fact, 80,000 out of 1.4 billion Chinese have been diagnosed (upper bound for hospitalized) so far, which is 0.006%.

How many of the 1.4 billion have been exposed?

Bad Wigins wrote:

And that count is stable, not changing fast anymore. If we assume the expert who said what you wanted to hear is correct, 70% of the Chinese population should have been infected by now, for a hospitalization rate of 80000/1000000000 = .008%.

70% of China currently infected sounds about right, although most of them would stil be in up to 27 day incubation period, meaning they are asymptomatic carriers spreading to the remaining pockets of uninfected.

coach wrote:

jdjdj wrote:

So no one knows? That's my point. The last cold I had in August of this year went like this:

Day 1 -3: Feeling out of touch, weak, slight sore throat.

Day 3 - 6: Very sore throat, tired, no desire to do anything but sleep

Day 6 -10: Runny nose, tired, bad cough with mucus

Day 10-14: Runny nose, chronic cough.

Day 15: I had much of my strength back but not 100%

By day 7 I went running but was very difficult. The cough and phlegm lasted for another 2 months!

So what is Covid-19 like?

I thought sweating and fever were signs.

No mucus symptoms. Dry cough, fever. That's it! Jeezz - do some reading you d!ck.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Fixed the boldface for you.

In fact, 80,000 out of 1.4 billion Chinese have been diagnosed (upper bound for hospitalized) so far, which is 0.006%.

And that count is stable, not changing fast anymore. If we assume the expert who said what you wanted to hear is correct, 70% of the Chinese population should have been infected by now, for a hospitalization rate of 80000/1000000000 = .008%.

Maybe that's because authoritarian regimes can do an incredible job of shutting down industries, cities and travel, reducing the morbidity rate.

Good luck with that in countries with a more liberal outlook

work culture here sucks wrote:

Seattle doing everything not to take it serious. It's "just the flu bro" 2.0. Probably still have Sonics games Oops. I mean theatre and other public events.

Spring break coming up too and it's business as usual here in the US! Spring break gonna be like "Chinese New Year 2020 2.0"! Massive spreading event. Most people I know haven't cancelled there plans.

Wait'll pops in the homeless communities. Corpses in the streets. Shut down the Pike Place Market now.