Parents and girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

Biological males have no business in women's sports. It is a travesty. What is remarkable is how angry, intolerant, and narcissistic the trans "rights" cult truly is. They know their position is absurd and misogynistic, that their whole concept of rights is a false zero sum game that accepts no compromise and no acknowledgement of basic fairness or the rights of others, and yet they believe they can bully people into meekly accepting their navelgazing bs and smear as bigots anyone who questions their zealotry. These clowns think they are doing gods work and remaking society. What they are actually doing is promoting injustice and acting lile douchebags.

Don't forget, these boys only had to say "I identify as a female" They are not required to do anything physical. No alterations, nohting. Just say you identify, and boom, you get to compete as a female.

Make A Comeback wrote:

Your thinking is somewhat muddled and I suspect that it will be difficult to explain anything to you.

I am not going to gather "evidence" for you (for the standard either required in court or what stands for evidence on the internet - the battle of the URLs) as I have a job, and better things to do than run around after you.

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You aren't going to gather evidence because it doesn't exist. It should take you less than 5 mins to post links to the articles you read. But you can't do that because you just made the sh*t up based on what you believe to be true.. There is zero evidence that being taller is advantageous for a runner. There is basically zero evidence that the Q angle of elite female runners (i.e. not the average. Nobody cares about that about the people that suck at running. It is all about those who are good at the sport) is different than transgenders. And the evidence of what hormonal therapy (much less surgery) does for performance is sketchy at best.

Again the real issue with the CT runners is what does it mean to be trans. Chop off the junk, go on hormones for 12 months, and so on, and I have no problem with you competing at the high school. I have no clue if your performance will rank better but the evidence so far is that they are close enough not to matter for non elite level (i.e. open nationals and olympic level competitions). Jury is still out at that level. Check a box on a form? Yeah that is suspect as hell. I am pretty sure that these runners were closer to the check a box stage for at least the first year or two (i.e. there was zero waiting period between coming out as trans and racing as a female).

When do you get caught in the recruiting process? If a runner has lived their life as a female and never been challenged by anyone and they receive a college scholarship, is at the physical that the doctor checks a block saying the athlete is male? Is it too late at that point or would the scholarship be revoked?

Men are women so women are men wrote:

When do you get caught in the recruiting process? If a runner has lived their life as a female and never been challenged by anyone and they receive a college scholarship, is at the physical that the doctor checks a block saying the athlete is male? Is it too late at that point or would the scholarship be revoked?

You're describing Semenya.

So if we are solely worried about exclusion and not worried about competitive advantages, there should be no classification. Therefore, everyone race each other regardless of race, religion, age, gender, drug-enhanced athlete or natural athlete.

JohnL wrote:

So if we are solely worried about exclusion and not worried about competitive advantages, there should be no classification. Therefore, everyone race each other regardless of race, religion, age, gender, drug-enhanced athlete or natural athlete.

People are worried about competitive advantages and that's why testosterone suppression is required. Your proposal to eliminate women's sports would lose 100-0 in the Senate.

The only credible part of your post is where you say, "I have no clue".