So was Iowa rigged as the Dem establishment didn't want people to realize Bernie Sanders kicked ass?

Trump wrote:

Truth b told2 wrote:

I find it odd that so many trump supporters jump so quickly to conspiracy theories about Bernie being cheated.

And seriously, if you support Trump you have already lost credibility regarding appreciation for the truth.

It’s not a conspiracy.

Bernie got screwed!

You'd think he'd learn by now.

The ironic thing is that the DNC that people are criticizing is trying to save the party and prevent it from falling further into obscurity:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/carville-dems-losing-damn-minds

If extremist like Sanders and AOC become the voice of the party and not the fringe, it will come to an abrupt end.

Ernest wrote:

Wait... whaaaat? There's a LR staffer who isn't Republican?

Nothing surprises me anymore!

I do not think the Iowa app issues were intentional.

Sanders is far-and-away the most intelligent Democratic candidate.

That’s actually Yang, and while he’s grown incredibly the last year he doesn’t really have a shot against Bernie. But I believe he’s more electable as president than Trump.

Lol, what a uninformed statement. Just look at how much support Bernie has. Same with AOC. The old guard is holding back the coming tide. If what you say was true, Biden would have handily won IA but he did not. The majority of the people voting Dem want the policies that people like Bernie and AOC are putting up.

Bernie has the support of 25% of half of the country. He and AOC would probably do just fine in New England and California, but they would lose every battle ground state.

Winners in Iowa caucuses rarely go on to be the nominee. It's just not that important of a state to the overall process.

I see no surprise that Bernie did well. The real surprise is Mayor Pete doing as well as Bernie, and Sleepy Joe's slide.

Who won?

Did they figure the final results now?

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

I'm planning to vote for Bernie, Mr. "lots of Biden stans here." If you want to loosely apply the term "rigged" to the Dem. party's significant institutional bias against Sanders, fine. I'm talking about rumors that the party actually attempted to manipulate the vote count. We do not have nearly enough evidence for that kind of extreme speculation. (I am all for a prompt and thorough independent audit of how Shadow Inc. got that deal and how the party decided to roll out the technology.) Do you really want people to believe that the process is completely rigged and that Bernie can't win? That's not a message that will inspire voter turnout.

No, I want the DNC and the "centrist" candidates to stop grifting for insiders, fundraisers, and donors.

Yet, all the polls are showing him pulling ahead of all of the Dem candidates. If Bernie's policies were opposed to and 'killing' the Dem party than why is he polling better than all of the other candidates?

Spin it however you want, but it doesnt add up. The only people killing the Dem party are the old guard. They are the ones holding back progress. People want change, that is the reason Obama won his presidency. Its also the reason Trump won. Status quo is not a winning strategy, calling progressives 'fringe' when they are receiving overwhelming support is disingenuous.

Timmy Treadwell wrote:

The real surprise is Mayor Pete doing as well as Bernie, and Sleepy Joe's slide.

Not a surprise at all. He is a bad candidate being propped up by special interests.

dunes runner wrote:

That Bernie won the popular vote by 6,000 people, and by 2,500 in the second round, yet someone else has about the same number of delegates is totally ridiculous, another example of the DNC purposely trying to change people's votes.

I'd be on board with changing the rules, but they weren't changed, so you should have known this was possible instead of screaming that someone is trying to change people's votes.

dunes runner wrote:

That Bernie won the popular vote by 6,000 people, and by 2,500 in the second round, yet someone else has about the same number of delegates is totally ridiculous, another example of the DNC purposely trying to change people's votes.

breit leit wrote:

I'd be on board with changing the rules, but they weren't changed, so you should have known this was possible instead of screaming that someone is trying to change people's votes.

Yes I did know that the DNC would probably try to change people's votes, which is exactly what they did. The Sanders campaign knew this as well, which is why they developed their own app that DID work, and also took many photos at the different caucuses for evidence.

The Iowa DNC (with national DNC support) taking votes from one particular candidate and giving them to others is exactly what they have been doing since Monday and apparently they didn't expect to be caught.

They didn't know the Sanders campaign had their own app, and therefore they got caught with their cheating. There have been many examples of that, and if you're not aware then perhaps you should look into it.

You should probably study up on how the Iowa caucus works.

Stop, you’re making a fool out of yourself.

The Iowa result was not good for Bernie. He got about half the votes he got last year. His whole candidacy is based on this idea that he's going to inspire people to start a "revolution," and turnout was down from 2016, way down from 2008. It's a demographically good state for him, and as a longtime senator and last cycle's runnerup, he lost to a smalltown mayor.

lots of Biden stans here wrote:

Timmy Treadwell wrote:

The real surprise is Mayor Pete doing as well as Bernie, and Sleepy Joe's slide.

Not a surprise at all. He is a bad candidate being propped up by special interests.

And what special interests might those be?

reer wrote:

lots of Biden stans here wrote:

Not a surprise at all. He is a bad candidate being propped up by special interests.

And what special interests might those be?

Checkout all of his millionaire donors!

Trump wrote:

reer wrote:

And what special interests might those be?

Checkout all of his millionaire donors!

You’ve an issue with millionaire donors?

breit leit wrote:

You should probably study up on how the Iowa caucus works.

Read my previous postings if you'd really like to know.