The coronavirus panic proves how easily manipulated people are and how the media sensationalizes everything

Head in the sand. wrote:

Ah, so now you do in fact confess that the flu does not kill. Thank you. Guess What? The coronavirus leads directly to massive organ failure. Now that's a deadly friggin virus! It needs no pneumonia to assist it.

Every disease leads to organ failure dipshyt! The lungs are an organ and pneumonia causes them to fail. What causes the pneumonia is the question; Influenza, HIV, coronavirus, etc. Pneumonia doesn't "assist" a coronavirus, the immune response from the coronavirus causes the inflammation in the lungs that leads to pneumonia. Maybe you should go ask your many friends that work in hospitals how it all works.

Damn you are stupid...

The Whopper and fry station is calling you.

Ok, I finally decided to open this thread and read it. The only things I can conclude are:

1) Facts Matter is an idiot

2) Bad Wiggins is presumptuous and annoying. He didn’t contribute anything valuable, just speculation, proclaiming its spread is over because he noticed it’s infection rate is decelerating. *slow claps*

3) The conspiracy theories about this being an engineered virus accidentally released into the wild are fascinating but very early to take seriously.

4) I think we should generally listen to public health experts. As long as our political leaders don’t get involved and muddy the waters/advice (“It’ll probably be gone by April because of spring”...), I’ll trust what the WHO/CDC recommends.

The whole point of the conspiracy theories/ hysteria is that the Chinese government is a dictatorship full of sycophants. They jailed/punished the scientists that originally tried to sound the alarm bells. They’re known to frequently lie about stats and they did so in previous outbreaks.

So, to say that they outbreak is going definitively in one way or another is disingenuous. We don’t have reliable data. We’ll have a better grasp of the situation once we see how Singapore makes out, since they have the ~most advanced medical system in the world. We’re also not sure of how many asymptomatic carriers there are. I hope you’re right that it is all fear mongering b/c we’re not ready for it.

Facts Matter wrote:

Head in the sand. wrote:

Ah, so now you do in fact confess that the flu does not kill. Thank you. Guess What? The coronavirus leads directly to massive organ failure. Now that's a deadly friggin virus! It needs no pneumonia to assist it.

Every disease leads to organ failure dipshyt! The lungs are an organ and pneumonia causes them to fail. What causes the pneumonia is the question; Influenza, HIV, coronavirus, etc. Pneumonia doesn't "assist" a coronavirus, the immune response from the coronavirus causes the inflammation in the lungs that leads to pneumonia. Maybe you should go ask your many friends that work in hospitals how it all works.

Damn you are stupid...

The Whopper and fry station is calling you.

What a degenerate. And you even admit it's pneumonia that causes lungs to fail, not the flu. Do you not get it yet? The flu at the most hysterical cases accounts up to 1/3 of causes leading to pneumonia. Likely 1/10.

Now, the coronavirus. Here we have something that can lead to pneumonia but also leads to kidney failure. Do you not see the difference?

Do I need to spell it out for you? Coronavirus=BAD

FLU=a Cold

Go wipe the drool off your face and change your diapers now Timmy.

bubbadeeboos wrote:

The whole point of the conspiracy theories/ hysteria is that the Chinese government is a dictatorship full of sycophants. They jailed/punished the scientists that originally tried to sound the alarm bells. They’re known to frequently lie about stats and they did so in previous outbreaks.

So, to say that they outbreak is going definitively in one way or another is disingenuous. We don’t have reliable data. We’ll have a better grasp of the situation once we see how Singapore makes out, since they have the ~most advanced medical system in the world. We’re also not sure of how many asymptomatic carriers there are. I hope you’re right that it is all fear mongering b/c we’re not ready for it.

Your not very smart either. Stup I’ll with a our conspiracy theories.

What in the world are you trying to say here facts matter troll boy? Has the coronavirus gotten to your brain.

Nice attempt to pose as me, but I would have agreed with that poster.

Head in the sand. wrote:

What in the world are you trying to say here facts matter troll boy? Has the coronavirus gotten to your brain.

Nice attempt to pose as me, but I would have agreed with that poster.

Try again dipshyt.

Thanos was right wrote:

Thanos was right wrote:

Anyone else hoping this thing kills half the worlds population? It would be nice if it just targeting conservatives...but hey, 3 .5 billion people is 3.5 billion fewer problems for mother nature.

Wait, what if we could find a way to infect someone at Atlanta International Airport? It would wipe out a HECK of a lot of southerners and Christians...who's with me?

That sounds like a good isea. The corobavirus is so deadly it will kilt people really fas because it causes organ falure.

Sure, coronavirus hasn't killed as many yet. The reason is because they are taking drastic measures to stop the spread. If we were to allow it to spread as the flu has then it would kill as many or more than the flu every year. The mortality rate so far has been higher than the flu. Do. You. Not. Understand. That?

It currently appears to be slowing; however, no one can be certain if China's figures are either honest or complete because of their history of misleading facts. There are plenty of videos out there that appear to be Chinese citizens claiming their government is lying and minimizing the truth. I'm sure glad to be in America where I can sit and debate the value of a dead flu victim vs the value of a dead coronavirus victim from the safety of my warm home while watching Cake Boss. That is all.

ledi wrote:

2) Bad Wiggins is presumptuous and annoying. He didn’t contribute anything valuable, just speculation, proclaiming its spread is over because he noticed it’s infection rate is decelerating. *slow claps*

Only a LOSER thinks being proven WRONG is "annoying" or not "valuable," or providing a source as impeccably reliable as Johns Hopkins "presumptuous." To prefer being stupid and misinformed is a loser attitude, and to do it with snark is ironic.

There's no crisis. Nobody posting on this forum is gonna die of corona virus, or even contract it, or know anyone who ever does.

Buddy--it's not that you're wrong. Wrong would be a good start.

You're like those "win percentage" graphs they slap onto every sports game now: Absolutely clueless about risk assessment and living in a world that does not at all reflect reality.

To those following this thread: DO NOT listen to the idiots using real time statistics for an unknown, unpredictable, and novel contagion as a means for saying what is fine and what is not fine. For the last friggin time....risk is in the future, NOT in what is currently known.

Let's use an example: For the past few years we've heard a lot about how "metrics are changing the game of football". Great. Coincidentally I recently had read that the Baltimore Ravens hired a "behavioral economist" to help crunch numbers and advise the coaching staff on in-game decisions. Consequently, the Ravens started going for it on 4th down WAY more often. Certainly didn't hurt that they had an extremely mobile QB, but they play their way to the #1 seed and the odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl.

Then they get to the playoffs, when it's one loss and you're out--ie. no room for error.

The Ravens keep what has been working and "go for it" on 4th down aggressively...except this time it doesn't work...at all....0 for 4 (twice in scoring position). Add to that two of the four times were game changing moments--their opponent drove down and scored in response to their failure (you could call that a "2nd order effect" of the failed 4th down). Ravens eventually lose in spectacular crash n burn fashion.

So.....your metrics work fine....until they don't. And you better hope to God that when they don't, it's not "game over".

Ok--now take that and apply to systemic risk dynamics. You (and the dumb*ss who started this thread) are the behavioral economist. You'll be right 99 times out of 100 and take loads of credit for "being right". But then one day you'll be wrong....very wrong....and you'll be left wondering why (if you're lucky enough to survive).

Those who understand the above should also understand that how lethal something "is" and how lethal something "could be" are two very different things. The latter is what you're guarding against, the former is more noise than signal.

Apparently no fizzle yet. Check the new numbers. Over 60k. Big one day jump.

Some countries seem like they're sandbagging the numbers. Cough Cough Canada. There's just so much traffic to Toronto and Vancouver from China it's hard to believe there's only 7 cases. IMO. They didn't even stop air travel like the US.

The number of new cases in Hubei grew by nearly 15,000, with 242 additional deaths counted in a single day.

Yesterday's news.

That’s not true idiot. Yesterday was 94 deaths and 3,000 new cases you fool.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

That’s not true idiot. Yesterday was 94 deaths and 3,000 new cases you fool.

I was replying to Facts Matter, who posted a link to a February 11th, 2020 article saying "virus worries wane". I agree with your first post above. I disagree with the second quoted above, but I'm not going to take it personally.

Sorry, my apologies. I see my mistake.