Were we lucky the coronavirus started in a country with strong central government able to quarantine infected people?

The coronavirus is nothing. Any idea how many people have died worldwide from the flu in the last 48 hours. Just another distraction for us dummies.

Five-year Planner wrote:

But China did not blink, they roped off a population bigger than Florida to keep everyone safe.

We should be thankfull of such prudence.

GTFO of here bro.

There's a silver lining in everything, even in dictatorship. That doesn't justify it, brah.

That is an open question. There are a lot of reports saying that China did not respond fast enough and local officials may have tried to downplay the issue to protect their position in the party. China's efforts to contain swine flu were almost a complete failure with something like a quarter of the pigs in China having to be slaughtered to contain the outbreak. China also has a history of coronoaviruses (SARS and MERS) and poor hygiene with animals/livestock is probably a cause. And China did attempt to conceal the extent of the SARS outbreak from the WHO. Thus, authoritarian governments may have broad powers, but they are also very prone to deception to prevent the population from learning about their incompetence.

What are the chances this virus was engineered in the Wuhan Biohazard Lab described in Nature a few years ago?

Of course we are, they have already cured 38+ people of this horrible disease. This thanks to government sponsored basic scientific research to join their nationwide battle.

Saturday has brought some good news from China, where the nationwide battle against coronavirus is underway – dozens of patients have been cured of the disease!

Some 38 people are recovering from coronavirus, Chinese media reported on Saturday.

WHO tells us that it's still only a Chinese emergency (NOT a global one), thanks in part to their great efforts to control the menace.

This would never have happened at all if they weren't into eating snakes and bats.

josh1988 wrote:

The coronavirus is nothing. Any idea how many people have died worldwide from the flu in the last 48 hours. Just another distraction for us dummies.

Except that people have immunity to flu, except the most fragile. With a new virus this is not the case and it could potentially kill a lot more people if not under control.

You are wrote:

josh1988 wrote:

The coronavirus is nothing. Any idea how many people have died worldwide from the flu in the last 48 hours. Just another distraction for us dummies.

Except that people have immunity to flu, except the most fragile. With a new virus this is not the case and it could potentially kill a lot more people if not under control.

About time for something like this, the earth and particularly China, is overpopulated.

Bad Wigins wrote:

This would never have happened at all if they weren't into eating snakes and bats.

Your cultural bias is showing.

Stop all that the doomsday banter! The strong central Chinese government wants you to focus on the single patient they cured not the 41 dead.

Rick Shaw wrote:

[quote]Bad Wigins wrote:

This would never have happened at all if they weren't into eating snakes and bats.

Yum!

Its a shame we can't get edible live civet cats and wolf pups at Ralphs, Safeway Whole Foods, or Aldi like they can at the Huanan Seafood Market in Wujan city.

(They also deliver live or frozen).

josh1988 wrote:

The coronavirus is nothing. Any idea how many people have died worldwide from the flu in the last 48 hours. Just another distraction for us dummies.

It's something.

Flu isnt trivial.

This is worse, as far as we can tell. Will be another couple weeks before we know for sure.

Right now it appears to be almost twice as virulent as SARS. Coefficient around 3.8. Moreover, the first paper out on infected had 41 involved:

-All had pneumonia

-35 recovered

-6 dead

That's a severe illness. It virtually always causes pneumonia and mortality rate so far at greater than 15%. Its also already spread more than SARS had, and has a longer incubation period.

Bottom line: flu IS a serious, non trivial illness. This is at least one tier worse.

Parsec wrote:

josh1988 wrote:

The coronavirus is nothing. Any idea how many people have died worldwide from the flu in the last 48 hours. Just another distraction for us dummies.

It's something.

Flu isnt trivial.

This is worse, as far as we can tell. Will be another couple weeks before we know for sure.

Right now it appears to be almost twice as virulent as SARS. Coefficient around 3.8. Moreover, the first paper out on infected had 41 involved:

-All had pneumonia

-35 recovered

-6 dead

That's a severe illness. It virtually always causes pneumonia and mortality rate so far at greater than 15%. Its also already spread more than SARS had, and has a longer incubation period.

Bottom line: flu IS a serious, non trivial illness. This is at least one tier worse.

China infects its citizenry with diseases to curb population growth

Let's tell it like it is wrote:

Parsec wrote:

It's something.

Flu isnt trivial.

This is worse, as far as we can tell. Will be another couple weeks before we know for sure.

Right now it appears to be almost twice as virulent as SARS. Coefficient around 3.8. Moreover, the first paper out on infected had 41 involved:

-All had pneumonia

-35 recovered

-6 dead

That's a severe illness. It virtually always causes pneumonia and mortality rate so far at greater than 15%. Its also already spread more than SARS had, and has a longer incubation period.

Bottom line: flu IS a serious, non trivial illness. This is at least one tier worse.

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/01/24/man-who-pushed-sars-dud-now-pushing-new-chinese-virus/https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/01/23/china-virus-epidemic-the-gong-show-on-roller-skates/

Lol this is some grade A choice conspiracy stuff right here.

The best part about it is the whole crux of his argument is just wrong. He keeps claiming that the symptoms of these diseases is indistinguishable from the flu.

This is blatantly wrong. Pneumonia is a rare symptom in flu, usually only in end stage severe cases. In this case, pneumonia is the leading and presenting symptom. Very different from the flu.

Really the only way you can buy into this is if you accept that all of modern science is more or less completely wrong.

Bad Wigins wrote:

This would never have happened at all if they weren't into eating snakes and bats.

they actually eat bats wrote:

China infects its citizenry with diseases to curb population growth

They don't need diseases when the government controlled tobacco industry kills a million or more each year.

I bet this thread will cause a few 20-somethings to eventually find out about the dark enlightenment

Quarantines were common during Europe’s plague-addled Middle Ages, and continued to be the primary means of controlling outbreaks until 1900.

The basic argument for quarantining is that in emergency scenarios, individual rights must be sacrificed for the collective interest. In the U.S., the constitutional basis for quarantining is somewhere between tenuous and nonexistent, depending on which legal expert you ask. A massive imposition like China’s would be unconstitutional, according to James Hodge, a health-law professor at Arizona State, who noted the likelihood of human-rights violation in such a scenario. Another skeptic, the Georgetown University legal scholar Alexandra Phelan, likened China’s response to a “sledgehammer.”

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention quietly expanded its authority to detain people without due process in 2018, despite the concerns of some legal and human-rights advocates.