Bekele over Kipchoge

Exactly, he diluted the actual accomplishment by bypassing the actual constraints.

FrenchDawg wrote:

Well Bekele did run faster this year

Then by your logic, we do not need to figure out who the best athlete for any distance is. Just order by time, right?

No? Well I agree. If you are talking about the "best" performances, then you need to talk about more than absolute time, and by this measure, a Kipchoge's time at London is a better performance against a better field than Bekele in Berlin.

Say what you want about the Ineos challenge, but it is at least a differentiator between them. Bekele had no other marathon.

doot doot wrote:

um nah wrote:

No he hasn't and you would know this if you were actually a Kenyan.

He’s almost as scared of 2:01:41 Bekele as Kipchoge. When Bekele is healthy there is a collective/hive fear instinct in Kenyans. The reaction is so pronounced that it even resonates in fake Kenyans like Keniano.

Expect Great Things™️✔️

The Kenyans have been burtalized by Geb first and then by Bekele in cross and track for nearly a decade. Now that they thought he was past it and could feel safe, they are in panick:

- Bekele ,their worst nightmare is back, and at marathon setting time 2 second away from world record

- A lot of young ethiopians are coming in the marathon where the Kenyans previously felt safe and are being dominated by the ethipians

- They show no sign of recovering in track middle distance, Cheptegei has the 10 000m and the ethiopians dominate the 5 000m

- Ethiopians are now threatening even in the 3000m steeple where previously Kenyans ruled without any contest.

Boots On The Ground wrote:

to talk about more than absolute time, and by this measure, a Kipchoge's time at London is a better performance against a better field than Bekele in Berlin.

Kipchoge time is worst and his competition was not any better.

And as for competition, Ineos challgenge is completely discarded. Bekele may claim yo have run a sub 1:50 marathon on his training or on a threadmill, who care? How many world record have been set in polt vault , sprint and jumps during training? Nothing count out of a legit competition.

All of this, especially with regard to the marathon.

Ethiopia has 8 of the top 10 marathon times this year.

Kenya has 2 of the top 10: #2- Kipchoge 2:02:37 and #10- Kipserem 2:04:11.

Kenya dominated the marathon in 2017. From 2018 onward depth goes to Ethiopia.

Hard bruh

Im number one but ive never beaten you wrote:

Dont work like that wrote:

This is a rating for 2019. Period. Not an all time best list.

And someone said "fake news" as if incapable of looking up the TFN ratings.

God help us all.

Using this logic one can have Rice ranked higher than Alabama in football in certain weeks during the season.

I don’t think you know how logic works.

When was Kosgei World Record bigger news than INEOS? All I saw was INEOS News.

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Im number one but ive never beaten you wrote:

Using this logic one can have Rice ranked higher than Alabama in football in certain weeks during the season.

I don’t think you know how logic works.

Maybe he meant “using this standard”? I guess if you were ranking the best teams of the week in college football then you could see teams wildly different orders during the season. However, college football rankings are for the best teams of the year updated through the latest week. So... I don’t really think comparison applies.

I likes it wrote:

Track & Field News marathon ratings for 2019 are out:

MARATHON

1. Kenenisa Bekele (Ethiopia)

2. Eliud Kipchoge (Kenya)

3. Lawrence Cherono (Kenya)

4. Lelisa Desisa (Ethiopia)

5. Berhanu Legesse (Ethiopia)

6. Mosinet Geremew (Ethiopia)

7. Mule Wasihun (Ethiopia)

8. Vincent Torotich (Kenya)

9. Geoffrey Kamworor (Kenya)

10. Getaneh Tamire (Ethiopia)

Bekele over Kipchoge.

I like it.

This thread is incomplete (or cannot be deemed to be complete) without my input.

um nah wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Kipchoge has beaten Bekele every time they've raced, but I notice everyone keeps demanding a rematch until they get the result they want. It will be the same if Bekele doesn't win in London (after the usual 'minimal' training). But if he wins, that will be the last marathon they race together.

No he hasn't and you would know this if you were actually a Kenyan.

I believe that he likely means marathon races.

Banana Bread wrote:

We're only making plans, for Nigel. We only want what's best for him. We're only making plans, for Nigel. Nigel just needs that helping hand.

i look out my window at night

i see the stars and im filled with fright

i have a feeling someone's looking

Don’t disrespect the king.

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=9768316

Educate this fool

NativeSon wrote:

I likes it wrote:

Track & Field News marathon ratings for 2019 are out:

MARATHON

1. Kenenisa Bekele (Ethiopia)

2. Eliud Kipchoge (Kenya)

3. Lawrence Cherono (Kenya)

4. Lelisa Desisa (Ethiopia)

5. Berhanu Legesse (Ethiopia)

6. Mosinet Geremew (Ethiopia)

7. Mule Wasihun (Ethiopia)

8. Vincent Torotich (Kenya)

9. Geoffrey Kamworor (Kenya)

10. Getaneh Tamire (Ethiopia)

Bekele over Kipchoge.

I like it.

This thread is incomplete (or cannot be deemed to be complete) without my input.

Well hurry up and tell us then!

Why is there so much hate for Kenya, and Kenyans, on this site and in the West in general? I don't understand it. Off topic? Maybe I should start a thread to get to the bottom of this?

I don’t care who else is running London, Kipchoge will not lose. He ran the sub2 very conservatively so if nothing would go wrong. He could have run faster.

Only Bekele at his best has a chance to beat Kipchoge. And if Bekele does run London and is ready like Berlin, I still predict Kipchoge over the final 5k. Kipchoge has a huge psychological edge, and Kipchoge will come to London to run a fantastic time. He will do whatever is required on the road - final 5k likely to be amazing.