WW2 casualties in today's perspective

Tell me you're joking? wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

I think the USA is similar to Japan in that we would ALSO fight to the last Man rather than Surrender, We may argue a lot especially on Political Issues, but we have about 330 Million people willing to die out of love for our Country. That is why we don't need a Draft, History shows (Like after Pearl Harbor) If the USA is attacked, there would be lines MILES LONG at Military Recruiting Stations, and lots of people underage and overage and who are not fit Physically or Mentally pretty much begging the military to let them in, Japan is very similar to the USA in that respect.

U.S. entering WW2 was a long time ago. Even though there were volunteers, a draft was still needed for WW2.

Fast forward to today. It is difficult for U.S. military recruiters to meet recruiting goals. Do you see on the news, military vets who are not U.S. citizens getting deported after a d.u.i. or drunk & disorderly arrests? If U.S. citizens were so willing to serve, U.S. would not need those who are not citizens to fight in U.S. wars. Go back to Tet Offensive, Viet Nam Conflict, 1968. Prior to Tet, according to U.S. polls, U.S. citizens were pro Viet Nam Conflict. Death rate increased during Tet Offensive. U.S. citizens wanted out.

U.S. 1941 was nothing like Japan. U.S. 2019 is nothing like Japan was, 1941.

Positive Contribution wrote:

back in 1970s ... wrote:

Back in 1970s, there were a few U.S. politicians who stated U.S. was on the wrong side of WW2. Pro German. Pro Nazi fascism has been real in U.S. since early 1930s. Without funding from fascist leaning Brits and fascist leaning U.S. citizens, there would have been no economic turn around for Germany in 1930s. See former U.S. Senator Prescott Bush.

You cannot simply blame the pendulum swinging left on Bolsheviks. There would have been a response to European global colonial rule no matter the name. Afghans going back thousands of years do not like to be tamed by anyone. Cultures and nations have tried.

Iran? If there were no Soviet Union, was there a guarantee those in U.S. and western nations were going to love independent thinking Persian Iranians forever? Soviet Union was not the reason H Norman Schwarzkopf Senior, U.S. C.I.A. man on the ground in Iran over threw democratically elected Musa Dagh, 1950s.

Syria? It would take too long to explain. No one to one tie to Soviet Union.

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Customer: You got plenty of guts. It's terrible when you see a guy like you that had to sacrifice himself - and for what?

Homer: And for what? I don't getcha Mister?

Customer: ...We let ourselves get sold down the river. We were pushed into war.

Homer: Sure, by the Japs and the Nazis so we had...

Customer: No, the Germans and the Japs had nothing against us. They just wanted to fight the Limies and the Reds. And they would have whipped 'em too if we didn't get deceived into it by a bunch of radicals in Washington.

Homer: What are you talkin' about?

Customer: We fought the wrong people, that's all. Just read the facts, my friend. Find out for yourself why you had to lose your hands. And then go out and do something about it.