As far as that goes, Camille is making a case all-time as well. Eleanor Robinson (my choice) is harder to compare: different era; far more versatile; but not as fast.
Camille’s dominance at 24 hours (the classic distance), with performances currently far beyond all others, speaks well of her. Additionally, she holds some trail world bests, admittedly on easy trails, but other trail runners are welcome to do the same (I don’t think they can, and their absence may mean they agree).
Maybe most impressively is the fact that under the exact same conditions there were only 4 men in the world who could beat Camille. She was the 5th best distance overall in the world championship event and set a women’s world record. She was only 3.5% off the men’s world champion.
This whole thing is very similar to something I may try to do in 2020 or 2021:
Run 100 miles in one calendar day.
another 5 miles....... wrote:
167.842 miles!!!!
90/77 splits.
What was Kouros splits? seems 100/90 for 190mi - 305.775 km is possible by a few top ultra runners now.
Found it- so he was about 100mi (100.53) at 12hr. 88mi second 12 hr. 53.3%/46.7% close to Herron's % 53.62/46.38%.
Not sure what is ideal maybe, 52/48%.
01 hours: 14 km - 35 laps
02 hours: 28 km - 70 laps
Marathon: 2:59:59
03 hours: 42.2 km - 106 laps
50 Km: 3:24:15
04 hours: 56 km - 140 laps
05 hours: 70 km - 175 laps
50 Miles: 5:47:52
06 hours: 83.5 km - 208 laps
07 hours: 96.8 km - 242 laps
100 Km: 7:15:00
(Australian national record)
08 hours: 110.4 km - 276 laps
09 hours: 123.2 km - 308 laps
10 hours: 136.1 km - 340 laps
11 hours: 149 km - 373 laps
150 Km: 11:05:02
(Australian national record)
100 Miles: 11:57:59
(Australian national record)
12 hours: 161.8 km - 404 laps
13 hours: 173.8 km - 434 laps
14 hours: 185.8 km - 464 laps
15 hours: 198 km - 495 laps
200 Km: 15:10:27
(world record)
16 hours: 209.9 km - 524 laps
17 hours: 221.8 km - 554 laps
18 hours: 233.4 km - 583 laps
150 Miles: 18:44:45
19 hours: 244.4 km - 610 laps
250 Km: 19:28:35
20 hours: 256 km - 640 laps
21 hours: 267.8 km - 669 laps
22 hours: 279.2 km - 698 laps
23 hours: 291.4 km - 728 laps
300 Km: 23:43:38
24 hours: 303.506 Km
(world record)
Gert Muller wrote:
Ummm wrote:
Anyone with a clue about competitive running?
Are they running though?
Look, ultra running is pretty stupid. But averaging 8:37 pace for 24 hours probably doesn't involve much walking.
I understand she ran about 99% of it, so only 166 miles running, about 1.8 miles walking.
jesseriley wrote:
I understand she ran about 99% of it, so only 166 miles running, about 1.8 miles walking.
what method waa used to gather this information?
Combination of watching film of Camille, crunching the numbers, and a heavy dose of mockery that anyone could be stupid enough to believe that anyone could walk this fast (clearly impossible).
I am probably in the shape to break 150 miles in this event.
Except she did 67 miles more
Now she deserves to be paid well.
Camille is an underrated trail runner as well. Holds CR @ Tarawera, ahead of Magdalena Boulet in that race.
It should be noted that Duwalter was in the race. Herron crushed her.
Duwalter is Queen of the trails.
Herron Queen of the track and road.
Both amazing ultra runners.
It's already been proven that women have more overall endurance than men. Science has shown that. But they lack the speed/power output of men. The longer the race the better women are in relationship to men.
At shorter distance likes the marathon and below, the other physical advantages of men play a more dominant role.[/quote]
No, that has actually been proven to be a myth. Mostly propagated by weak men’s fields.[/quote]
Correct. I wish this fallacy could be put to bed. Ultra running is done by 2nd rate women and 5th rate men. There is no running distance that a man would not beat an equivalent woman.
The day African runners start to dominate ultra running and trail running, white people will have world records for running on water. I'm sorry. I just can't take ultra or trail running seriously because the best talent in the world doesn't care about it yet. If they did, then we will see all this hype about cave running world records next.
Cb wrote:
Except she did 67 miles more
I know. But just think of how few people have even done 100 miles in one day - I'll settle for that. I think I would have to run somewhere between 35-40 miles and walk 60-65 miles. It seems doable - even though I'm 57.
lol lol lol wrote:
UltraDude wrote:
This completes the trifecta for Camille of 50K, 100K, and now 24hr world champion. No one else on the planet has ever accomplished this feat. She is an amazing athlete and amazing person in general.
husband? or camille?
Camille herself.
Vaporfly does it again!!! Reducing muscle damage with a plate!! Proof image!
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YMMV wrote:
If my math is correct, her pace is only 9-10% slower than Zach Bitter's recent 100-mile/12 hour record, which is remarkably little slowdown from a gender comparison standpoint. She ran 89% of Kouros' record which is also very impressive against the GOAT.
Gender considered, Camille is a better runner than Zach, and her records are stronger than Zach's 100. Her marathon PR, while not quite elite, at 2:37, isn't much slower than Zach's, at 2:31. Given that Camille ran a bit over 90 miles in the first 12 hours of this race and still had enough left in the tank for 77+ in the last 12, she's probably capable of breaking 12 hours for 100 miles if only running 100. Zach ran very well for 100 miles given his relatively limited speed, but let's be honest in saying that it wouldn't exactly be surprising for someone with similar mileage in training and a fast marathon PR to lop 30-60 min off his time.
Do you care about women's records in general?