College Recruitment

What times do you need to run? You mean if someone lists a time on a message board, that is all you need to run it?

Here is a possible solution:

1. Run as fast as you can (regardless of a time listed by an anonymous messageboard poster.)

2. Wait for college coaches to contact you.....they are looking all the time......if they aren't contacting you, there is a reason.

3. Start emailing schools that interest you, complete their questionnaires, and wait for their reply......if they aren't replying, there is a reason.

4. Repeat steps 1-3 until you find a place with mutual interest.

Tyrone Smith wrote:

Coaches are more likely to give a 15:4x guy that runs 30 MPW than a 15:4x guy that runs 55 MPW. That is a fact.

no it's not

you could theoretically handle higher volumes and have a big upside

or you could totally blow up, get injured, burn out, just trying to get to 50-60 mpw

handling higher volumes requires a lot of miles over a lot of years. you're behind the 8-ball, which can be scary to some coaches

a kid who's averaged 55 mpw even just for his junior and senior year of high school is going to have a higher capacity to work and handle volume than someone doing 30 mpw, even with the same times. They'll be able to handle the continual increases you'll see in college. More of a "sure thing."

you? you're an unknown. your track times don't indicate that you've got a ton of natural speed, so we're living and dying by how you adapt to the higher volume of collegiate training

d1s won't give you much attention because they could bring in 20 more of you if you don't pan out. You're not a bad runner, you just need to look for the right fit. Find a lower level school (low d2, d3, or NAIA) that has a history of developing runners with your profile. look at the roster, find the kids, look what they've done in high school versus now. Were they consistent in high school and stopped being consistent in college? Was it the other way around? Do your research

don't try to angle for the schools where there's no incentive to work to develop you. Find a program that's going to value you and your progression and then has the other stuff you want in a school

or go d1 and hate the experience, not really my call either way.

XC times can be relevant if you run them at state courses but that's not the point. I'm aware of my track times, I was doing 20 MPW and was only a sophomore.

Cool story

or perhaps coaches have thought about recruiting you, and found out that your character is accurately represented by how you post on here, and they all passed because they don't want a bad apple in their bunch?

You’re not good. Stop acting like you’re good. We see your times, they aren’t fast. Stop correcting people. You don’t know what you’re talking about

Tyrone Smith wrote:

Cool story

Actually, Jpcmu makes good points. But beyond that it’s way premature for you to be asking about recruiting based on those track times. If the XC mark was a legit course then your track times should improve quite a bit. You should focus on performing in the big meets in XC and track this year and then figure things out next summer when you have better marks. I don’t know what the point of having people throw out times is but 4:20/9:20 might get you some interest at decent programs. More likely you’ll be choosing a school based on academics and finances and running if it’s a D3 or running club if it’s a D1.

Irony

Thanks for motivation. I will update you guys in a year

This is hilarious. If you’re just gonna correct everyone then don’t post on this forum. I’m convinced you don’t even exist, as I can’t find your milesplit.

Your 800m isn’t college material but your 5k indicates you can complete at college level.

However, if you want to be GOOD at college level or have aspirations to one day compete at a higher level, your speed needs to improve, that 800 is horrible, horrible, horrible for a competitive male athlete. If you apply for D1 they will expect you to drastically improve.

BUT if you’re just going to college for the athletic experience of competing and don’t really care about being successful with your running, then yeah just get into a D3 school with good academics and run baby run.

What was even the point of this? Everyone who tells you you have a shot, you give positive response to, but everyone who tells you you might not be fast enough doesn't know what they're talking about and is being an idiot? If you want blind compliments go to your grandma's house or something.

Tyrone,

Looking good, man. By the looks of your junior year xc times so far, it looks like you about to go off this year in track. Keep on training smart and hard and you should have no problem being able to run in college. But I would also market yourself and email coaches. I am a former D1 runner that needed to at least get my foot in the door with some coaches. Tell them about your upcoming races but all that is going to be dependent on your track times.

Slow feet don't eat.

But you're in the right direction and it looks like my boy Tyrone about to be eating.

if that 16:13 wasn’t some lighting fast course and it translates to a 4:2x or 9:3x outdoor with some hard work over the winter there’s no reason you couldn’t run for dozens of mediocre d1 programs.

You’re a good runner, don’t let the people here tell you otherwise. There’s thousands of people who wish they were as fast as you.

Start emailing coaches at mediocre d1 programs if d1 is what your heart is set on. Tell them you had a good cross country season and want to know what kind of track times they’d be looking for if you want a spot on their team. Keep these coaches up to date as you hit these goals and see where it goes from there

That’s just not true. There are many, many D1 cross country runners who never broke 16 minutes in high school. Stop acting like you know everything and like there’s one formula for running fast. If he can run any two of 1:57, 4:2x, or 9:3x this year he can walk on D1. You don’t have to be insane to run in college, you just have to talk to coaches.

Name 5 decent D1 runners who did not break 16 minutes.

I worked my ass off this summer, I even PR’d in my 2 mile on a cross course that had uphills lol. This isn’t my real name because some people on this forum aren’t the nicest and I would not like them to know my identity. I plan on doing a lot of work this winter.

I’ve ran within 15 seconds of that 16:13 3x, on harder courses (obviously a lot of improvement over one summer). Those are my goals for junior track and I’ll shoot my shot with some coaches.

I ran the 4 x 800 once at the beginning of the season in bad conditions and the 800 again as my 3rd event so I never really got a good time. I’ve been working on my speed a lot this season and I can beat some people in sprints that used to beat me in sprints last year and even in track. I’ll do a lot of 800s this year because I’ll be in the 4 x 800. I want to have fun with it and be somewhat competitive