Racer 1 was quite correct when he responded:
Racer1 RE: Mr. Renato Canova: Could You Please Answer a Question About Effective Ways to Improve the Lactate Threshold? 8/2/2005 4:01PM - in reply to Tinman Return to Index | Report Post
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Tinman wrote:
Andy:
Be careful, you are citing scientific research. This forum discourages truth. Only experience counts, so expect Cabral or his friends to hammer on you. Their experience is better than your knowledge of science. Tinman
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Tinman, do you expect you deserve respect when you spew verbal diarrhea such as the above?
This thread, now 400 posts long, has the advice of many top coaches with athletes that medaled in Olympic finals.
You, on the other hand, have in the last day contributed a slander of a good coach simply because he does not agree with you.
And actually, you metaphorically shot yourself in the foot with the statement "Experience is better than science." Though your intent was obviously sarcasm, that statement is true; experience BLOWS AWAY science in every case at every level.
JK wrote a fantastic article posted on this site several months ago about the many problems with running science studies, how they are misinterpreted, and how they are fallaciously substituted for real world TRIAL AND ERROR.
After reading so much mourning for you in other threads (where, I might add, your childish "I'm leaving the forum because I am too good for these immature posters" was actually supported by some) I can now see the extent to which many posters (or perhaps yourself touting yourself under a different name) lack reading comprehension.
One need only revisit an earlier page on this very thread to find ample evidence of your aversion to reasoned debate of any kind and your willingness to have ZERO discussion in the event someone's feelings may be hurt.
Just for others to see, here is a little glance at your blatant and ridiculous hypocrisy:
Page 4: (AFTER RENATO POSTS A VERY LONG EXPLANATION OF A CIRCUIT USED BY HIS ELITE KENYANS LIKE SHAHEEN AND ANOTHER POSTER COMPLIMENTS RENATO) "I have only said this, in various forms, for a year and half on letsrun.com, but I guess it takes a guy with Renato's reputation to make it stick. I am humbled by Renato's influence. How long will it take before people forget this key principle and hammer away at lactic acid interval and disregard threshold? History repeat itself, unfortunately! Tinman"
Page 6: (TINMAN AFTER GETTING HIS FEELINGS HURT BY A KNOWLEDGEABLE DISTANCE RUNNING COACH)
"Antonio:
For a guy who thinks that science has no place in training, you sure do a lot of talking about lactate this and that. Why don't you just tell people the workouts you advise and let them get the idea of what you are trying to say. I am sure many would appreciate your training schedules and benefit more from looking at the schedules than any explanation could give. Take care and thanks for your input. Sincerely, Tinman"
Page 6: (TINMAN INSULTING A FOREIGN COACH ATTEMPTING TO CONVEY IN A FOREIGN LANGUAGE (ENGLISH) VERY COMPLEX PHYSIOLOGICAL TERMINOLOGY AFTER COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW HE DOES NOT LIKE FIGHTING WITH OTHERS (HYPOCRISY?). AS AN ASIDE, I WOULD LOVE TO READ TINMAN'S TREATISE ON LACTATE BUFFERING WRITTEN IN PORTUGUESE. WAIT, HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE. FUNNY THAT HE ATTACKS ANOTHER THEN FOR TRYING AND SUCCEEDING.)
"Regarding Cabrals messages the way they are, they suck royally. He doesn't know English well enough to clearly convey his expertise. That is why I suggested that he just write out the training he prescribes. Tinman"
Page 7: (TINMAN ATTACKS ANOTHER POSTER WHO POINTS OUT TINMAN'S RIDICULOUS ATTEMPT TO ARGUE WITH CABRAL ABOUT NOTHING. TINMAN ACCUSES ANTONIO OF A "BAD TEMPER." APPARENTLY DISAGREEING WITH TINMAN ABOUT RUNNING MEANS YOU HAVE A "BAD TEMPER." HE FURTHER TAKES CHEAP SHOTS AT OTHER POSTERS0
"Antonio:
It seems your temper is out of control and it is not at all productive to deal with someone in your state of mind.
I will give you a clear path and avoid interacting with you. I am sure that makes you and dunes (your kiss-butt buddy) happy. Tinman"
Mercifully, Tinman disappears for a while and attempts to gain a following on Run-Insight, sadly returning and striking up another argument that again highlights his own absurd debating tactics and childish attempts at attacking others.
So there you have it in black and white for the Tinman cult followers. Seems to point to an obvious conclusion indeed.