Jordan Hasay drops out after going out over 3 hour pace

girl watcher wrote:

We should accept whatever she says.

Why?

41° day — not implausible that you could end up with a hamstring injury trying to run fast on cold muscles.

Ias wrote:

Anyone still doubts Salazar runners were doping? It’s a shame they were not all banned including Farah.

Shame on all the involved Athletics organizations

Nah, has nothing to do with doping, it has to do with Salazar's mental coaching that is the difference between being the best US marathoner or someone who can't even finish the main race of the year OR between someone who dominated Olympics and international competitions and suddenly turns into a 2:10 marathon.

If they could have only talked to Salazar over the phone yesterday about race strategies and tactics, none of these would have happened!! :D

rojo wrote:

ScoopedbyTMZ wrote:

What’s the point in this post? I was half expecting to see some useful information in here like LetsRun actually talked to Jordan or someone in her camp and found out what happened. Nope, typical turd LR non-reporting.

The point of the post is to let our thousands of visitors that one of America's star runers was a DNF in Chicago. Do you not think that's newsworthy? We put it up as we wait for official word in Chicago. Obviously, we've put in an interview request for Hasay.

Also, the point of this is to see if anyone else has info. Someone has posted to a good article from RW that has some info.

So if Tom Brady leaves the Super Bowl in the first quarter, you dont think that fact should be reported?

Bull crap.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

American women may as well just quit the marathon. None of them will ever get close to sub 2:18.

Don't you just LOVE a nattering nabob of negativism? Guess who isn't the life of the party?

LordEric44 wrote:

Nike asking her to lie about AlSal must have weighed heavy , Paula Radcliffe on the other hand has no problem doing this telling the BBC this week she see's nothing wrong with what Salazar did .

+1

I’m 100% not an NOP apologist, but this is weak journalism. Hassay didn’t “go over 3:00 pace” except on paper. She stopped, attempted to work out a problem, tried to resume, couldn’t. Pulled the plug. The headline, while technically true, couldn’t be more inaccurate. I’d retitle it as it appears hostile and unseemly.

So much poison. She works so hard. I find Steph Bruce and Simpson etc disgusting and evil for the poison they put on Jordan. Fck the media. This will sort itself out and I hope Jordan comes back way stronger. But what Jordan went through for the jealous and the trolling is way beyond wrong.

I agree and think that, for now, at least, Alberto's athletes should be given a break. Do I think they are clean? No. But the media, fake media AND paparazzi almost broke Britney years ago and it is happening to the athletes now. Most of Alberto's Nike Oregon Project athletes knew they had futures and trusted Alberto. Yes, it's shameful what Salazar did.... But now his athletes have to try to compete on a world stage without help and it's not easy for them. They, however, were the pawns in the scheme. This may fall on deaf ears but these athletes are real people and need time to adjust. In 6 months....do what you need to do and say what you need to say...but really....just not yet.

Goucher Needles wrote:

I’m 100% not an NOP apologist, but this is weak journalism. Hassay didn’t “go over 3:00 pace” except on paper. She stopped, attempted to work out a problem, tried to resume, couldn’t. Pulled the plug. The headline, while technically true, couldn’t be more inaccurate. I’d retitle it as it appears hostile and unseemly.

How about the speculation that when you can't sleep its impossible to max. Who here thinks they could have slept through her last 2 weeks?

She had a panic attack. It started right away , she was well off pace 1 mile in. I had an athlete in the race and made sure to give feedback at the mile....and Jordan was far back, lost, and disoriented. I felt bad for her as she has always come across as likeable and a true contender.

West River Road stomper wrote:

41° day — not implausible that you could end up with a hamstring injury trying to run fast on cold muscles.

Um yea, it would never occur to a professional athlete who has been involved in the sport forever to warm and be prepared to run 5:15 pace, not that hard.

Lars Sqweebles wrote:

She had a panic attack. It started right away , she was well off pace 1 mile in. I had an athlete in the race and made sure to give feedback at the mile....and Jordan was far back, lost, and disoriented. I felt bad for her as she has always come across as likeable and a true contender.

I don’t feel bad for her at all. Cheaters out.

Glad that Jordan, Galen, and Mo who defended their dirty coach had a terrible day in Chicago today. That’s a victory for clean sport.

T&F Nut wrote:

So what happened to her and Rupp. All the hype and then this. Couple of losers is what we have here. Not the first time.

Losers? You're the loser...loser.

Goucher Needles wrote:

I’m 100% not an NOP apologist, but this is weak journalism. Hassay didn’t “go over 3:00 pace” except on paper. She stopped, attempted to work out a problem, tried to resume, couldn’t. Pulled the plug. The headline, while technically true, couldn’t be more inaccurate. I’d retitle it as it appears hostile and unseemly.

Hostile? Are you having issues right now?

WTF are you talking about? Are these elites made of porcelain? How disorienting can it be to line up and....run? I've run plenty of marathons and even on a bad day you just move your body. Hurting? Tough. Just go. Panic attack, on the run? Again, someone who would experience a panic attack whilst on the run, that's not an elite you will ever be able to count on. American distance running reflects what our society is becoming. Effete, fragile, non hardy. Last, the idea that we need some jakk offf like AlSal to keep things together, ridiculous. Run your plans and race your race, little skinny eggshells.

Lars Sqweebles wrote:

She had a panic attack. It started right away , she was well off pace 1 mile in. I had an athlete in the race and made sure to give feedback at the mile....and Jordan was far back, lost, and disoriented. I felt bad for her as she has always come across as likeable and a true contender.

Hamstring strain at the start of a marathon? Not a chance. Marathon pace is not fast enough to do that. I don't feel bad for her, she had a suspicious rise from non contender even for just making the usa team at 10k to pretty much a favorite for the marathon within 2-3 months and the womens marathon team was going to be the toughest to make. Everyone here believed her to be a lock for the team and rightfully so because she ran a time that should not have been possible given her ability. She nearly got dropped from NOP and was on her final warning.

Athletes have a responsibility over who's associated to them. In this case she chose her coach. Now deal with it.

It’s obvious this was a panic attack and not a hamstring injury as her father claimed. What’s more likely? That a runner with a 4:07 1500 PR wrecked her hamstring in the first mile of a marathon, or that she realized the leaders pace was impossibly fast and she mentally caved as a result?

My money would be on the latter. Her coach is suspended, she is unable to compete at the same level without him, and her career is fading as fast as Kosgei did before her eyes this morning. Her whole world is NOP, and that is officially over. She should have left years ago when the ProPublica reports came out about Salazar, and has brought this all upon herself.